Michael Autistic?


It's fairly obvious that Michael was deeply depressed but apart of me was wondering was he possibly autistic. He clearly is intelligent but has ALOT of trouble with understanding social cues and communicating (i.e. he didn't understand that he was on a date with Jackie, his inappropriate responses in certain situations, and his odd expressions just to name a few). And the things he says, "my facial expressions have little to do with my emotions"...I don't know, but those little details stick out to me. I'm only drawing this from textbook info that I've read on higher functioning autism; I haven't actually had contact with someone who has it. What do you all think? Is it possible that he could have been autistic?

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I don't think he was autistic, but he probably didn't know how to communicate with people, which his depression made a lot worse. From what I can gather from his talks with Jackie about work, it seems like he carries on pretty normally there, even to the point of being friendly. What the film shows is probably the first time that he's been in a one on one (and fairly intimate, at that) situation with a person in a long time, and that kind of isolation can make dealing with people hard.

I know from my own experiences with depression (what Michael describes is very accurate) that after a while, especially if you isolate yourself, you kind of forget how to talk to people. Or act in social situations. That leads to pretty much all the stuff you noticed.

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That makes sense. I know depression is affects everyone differently and I guess I just havene't seen a case THAT bad before. Thanks for answering :)

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I think you're forgetting that people at work call him "Mr. Strange". I would say too that his explanation at the end of the film, plus some of his other odd reactions throughout, add up to more than just depression. I'm not saying it's autism, but there is some kind of fairly serious mental illness there.

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I really think it's just serious depression, since his experiences fit what happens when someone gets really depressed. He self-isolates to the point where he lost his ability to connect with people. He seems able enough to know certain ways he should act, he's just really awkward because of his isolation. I bet that would lead to people calling him strange, since most people don't like awkwardness.

Like I said in my earlier post, I've been through some fairly serious depression, and what Michael describes is pretty much exactly the kind of thing I went through; in a lot of social situations, I still act a lot like he does and I don't have autism. Depression can be a really serious thing, and I have a feeling that's what Noonan was going for with this movie - it's about loneliness and isolation. Both characters go through that, and it's because of their own personal hangups and problems; I guess autism could be a part of that, but I doubt that's what Noonan intended, especially when he painted such an accurate portrayal of the effects of depression.

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Oh, I know it's a serious thing. My wife suffers from depression (or in medical terms, at least dysthemia if not full-on, clinical depression); and it killed my father (via suicide). But neither of them ever engaged in such odd, eccentric behaviour as Michael did.

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Like I said, it is possible for depression to cause odd behavior. The brief bit of psychology study I've done indicated that, and it was certainly my own personal experience. I've always been a shy person, but a prolonged self-isolation, like what Michael describes, basically makes you forget how to interact with people, and I assume it's easier for that to happen if you're awkward to begin with. That leads to all kinds of behavior that seems socially odd.

Strangely enough, I have a cousin that has high functioning autism, and he tends to do a lot better in social situations than I do. Reactions to these conditions can vary a lot from person to person.

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No wonder why I have a hard time keeping customer service jobs.

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Sorry about your father.

As for my opinion on this thread, no I didn't think Michael was autistic. Depression, definitely as we all agree. And perhaps some other kind of mental illness or instability, though not sure what. When he talks about having a breakdown in college, that implies whatever is ailing him was enough that he had to drop out and stop. Sometimes depression does get so severe that you lose touch with reality some.... severe depression/anxiety/stress could lead to some psychosis, dissociative breaks, etc.

I think he was at least depressed, maybe more, but not autistic.

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Thanks, and fair enough. We're certainly never going to be able to resolve it in any case.

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