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It should have been about Robert Englund dealing with the real Freddy Krueger


What a scarier and more interesting film that would have made.

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AngularTurnip, you have beaten me to entering this area, but are still making a different statement from the one that I have been about to present. You are saying that Robert Englund should be Freddy's victim from the start. That is a good idea, but would not work since Robert serves as a bridge between Heather Langenkamp and Freddy. It would also bring too much darkness to the story and turn the movie in to a drama. Robert's middle ground is very important because it emphasizes his ambivalence. He feels that he is losing his identity as the monster whom he has always been in control of and had fun with is threatening him, yet he wants to protect others from the demon. The latter is a result of Robert's guilt for playing fictional Freddy which he thinks is responsible for allowing living Freddy to enter the real world. Heather is unnecessarily but understandably developing a fear of her close friend Robert, demonstrating that the boundaries of truth are no longer clear to her. That ought to be capitalized through the actor proving that he is separate from Freddy. It bothers me that Robert simply disappears after admitting his trouble. He should be the one to defeat Freddy and rescue Dylan and Heather. I don't object to Heather's fighting Freddy, but since the demon has moved in to life through his being portrayed, it would be much more fitting for Robert to declare that his character only exists in movies which would remove all power from Freddy. In that case, maybe Freddy would die instead of just being sent back to hell.

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"You are saying that Robert Englund should be Freddy's victim from the start. That is a good idea, but would not work since Robert serves as a bridge between Heather Langenkamp and Freddy."
Robert serves as a bridge between Heather and Freddy in the film which was actually made, yes - but that would not have been the case in a movie with Robert Englund as the protagonist. In such a scenario, Heather would just be another actress with connection to the movies.


"He should be the one to defeat Freddy and rescue Dylan and Heather."
It should always be the protagonist who deals with the antagonist - not the secondary characters. If Robert were the one who defeated Freddy, then that's in line with the OP - but then Robert would be the main character, not Heather.

Edited because the formatting is still FUBAR on this site.

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I think they squandered a major opportunity to have real-life Englund figure more prominently in the story. All the time they waste on Langenkemp's son, who I believe is essayed by one of the worst child actor's ever, could have been devoted instead to Englund and how through him Freddy is coming into our reality -- with only Langenkamp able to stop him.

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Karl Aksel, if Robert were brought out a bit more, then he would also be a main character. Yes, a protagonist always deals with an antagonist, but that does not mean that one is always a hero, especially since such a person can be bad and an antagonist can be good. This movie is the type that would support more than one protagonist. Heather could still stand up for herself and her son while getting help from Robert, who should put the finishing touch on the fight by killing Freddy. The story would work best by being a combination of what all three of us are saying.

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