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How can one show Eliot without showing Pound?


For all that the performances are good, the thing that kept bugging me throughout was, How can you do a movie about T.S. Eliot during these years without also showing Ezra Pound? Pound was Eliot's best friend -- the man who discovered Eliot as a poet and tirelessly promoted Eliot far and wide. "The Waste Land," perhaps Eliot's most famous poem, has a facsimile edition of the manuscript one can buy, and Pound's annotations are all over it. They were in many ways a literary team.

The only thing I can speculate is the role of Viv. That is, if you let Pound in as a character, he would end up being a major, major role, and the whole point of both the play and the movie is how unappreciated Viv has been in the standard biography of Eliot's life and work. In order to play up Viv, one has to play down Ezra.

In a movie that's willing to show historical "name" characters like Bertrand Russell and Virginia Woolf, though, the huge gaping whole in the story where Pound should be kept distracting me.

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I think you answered your own question in the second paragraph :)

That said, I don't know if I'd go as far as to say Eliot and Pound were BEST friends.

Regardless, a Pound biopic is certainly something I'd like to see.

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Well, the title of the movie is Tom & Viv, after all, not Tom & Ezra.

And the focus of the movie is supposed to be on Vivienne Haigh-Wood, not Eliot himself. So while it's not surprising that Eliot and those of his friends and contemporaries who apparently interacted most with Vivienne should be included, it's equally unsurprising that Pound's influence over Eliot's literary output was overlooked. (Her relationship with Bertrand Russell is well-known as are the snarky remarks that people like V. Woolf and Ottoline Morrell made about her whereas I'm not sure how much Pound had to do with her.)

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Though Vivienne at the end tells the obtuse American doctor that T.S.Eliot was the greatest living poet in the English language, the film completely failed to show this. He might as well have been a Midwest brick maker like his father. Introducing Ezra Pound might have forced the film makers to think about what poetry is and what makes a poet.

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It's irrelevant whether the film showed him to be the greatest - or whether the audience or the filmmakers thought he was.

What's relevant is that Vivie believed that, and it determined her response to the doctor.

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