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Do you think Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins' characters should have married at the end?


Gay marriage was legal even then. I am not sure about it. Their relationship inside the slammer was very sexy. I must say i have had visions of them love making and it was a great interracial experience!

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A sexual relationship between them didn't even enter my mind. I saw them as great friends only, and marriage would have changed everything.

Even if they did want to marry, I don't think Andy could have made himself known to the authorities to be legally married due to his escape from the prison.

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I doubt two fugitives from the law could get a marriage license and not draw unwanted attention. It would have to be a private, illegitimate service, with a cake that has a small rock hammer in it.

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But that would still leave a glaring problem... See, when they eat the cake they will bite into the small rock hammer in it and may even break their teeth.

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The ending of the movie takes place in the 1960s when that wasn't even considered okay. Besides, Andy already said that he wasn't gay. Hence why he has a poster of a beautiful half naked woman.

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<< Andy already said that he wasn't gay. Hence why he has a poster of a beautiful half naked woman. >>

WELL ... that settles EVERYTHING, then! Buy a poster and deny deny deny and you're home free!
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Andy WAS a gay. If not then the posters would have had sperm all over them.

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Outstanding. Not once did I draw a connection between their platonic mutual admiration and anything resembling sexy. To put it another way, I do not recall hearing anyone ever say: "You know what movie gets me so hot? The Shawshank Redemption."

I applaud your unique perspective.

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The Shawshank Mutual Masterbation.

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No. And gay marriage was not legal back then. I have no idea where the OP got his information on gay marriage being legal. Homosexuality was actually looked upon as a disease instead of a life choice.

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it's a troll thread you incredible ditz.

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No need to insult. And, yes, you are right about it being a troll thread. Typing does not allow one to see sarcasm. I was just offering an opinion, much like you did in the post right below this one. Really, it is amazing to me how the anonymity of the internet changes people who would otherwise be civil into uncivil uncouth persons.
I have never heard that one before - "you incredible ditz". I have heard some beauts on here and elsewhere, but that is a new one. As you said below, you are a "homo". It is strange that you would say "homo" instead of "gay". I have never heard a gay man refer to himself as "homo".

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It is strange that you would say "homo" instead of "gay".


Are you young and sensitive, PC etc? If I'm not bothered by it why should you be.

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Nope. Not bothered by gay people, men or women. Their sexual preferences is only a small part of who they are. In my 68 years on this earth, I have known several gay people. They are intelligent, creative individuals who are fun to be around.
The thing I find amusing is your need to insult when someone offers a differing opinion than yourself.
You will believe what you will, and I will believe what I will. We will agree to disagree.

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"Nope. Not bothered by gay people, men or women"

I meant are you sensitive about language... jeezus. Since you complained that I said "homo" instead of gay. Which you obviously are. Do i have to explain everything to you twice?

I dunno what your age is but no-one is fooled by you pretending that your original post was "sarcasm". You obviously thought the thread starter was serious. I have a feeling you dont even know what sarcastic means.

Why do you care if I call myself a homo? It's not an insult, its just a plain speaking term. You seem particularly dense to me. You should start being a bit smarter, when I was a teenager I was dumb but I was never lame enough to falsely claim I was "being sarcastic" when someone corrected me. lol...

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1.) You meant I was sensitive about language? No, about good manners. Calling someone an "incredible ditz" because they don't realize that the OP's post was a troll thread is my problem.

2.) You don't know what my age is? Well, I did say "on my 68 years on this earth" in my above post. I did not say my original post was sarcasm. Reread my post above.
I said, and I quote "No need to insult. And, yes, you are right about it being a troll thread. Typing does not allow one to see sarcasm" Which, of course, means that a typed message rarely conveys sarcasm to the reader.

3.) I don't care if you call yourself a homo. It is just that I had never heard a gay person refer to themselves as "homo". When I was younger, the word "homo" was a derogatory term. Maybe some younger gay people say homo now, but I have never heard it.

At any rate, this whole dialogue has been a rather useless endeavor, considering that it was a troll post, as you said, in the first place. This film is one of my top five favorite dramas.

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Well, I did say "on my 68 years on this earth" in my above post.


Sorry, I got distracted by how patronising the next couple of sentences were.

Do you agree your feeling insulted is not important when there's tons of people dying out there and we're gonna be locked down for months.

I'm bored as hell and I havent "practiced my way of life" with a young black man for 2 months now, so yeah I'm gonna get cranky.

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I understand. Though I fail to see where calling gay people "intelligent, creative individuals who are fun to be around" as patronizing.
And yes, I agree that feeling insulted is not as important as the pandemic currently wiping out scores of lives. But, in the same vein, you seemed to me to be vehemently insulted by what I said. To attack someone for expressing a thought that you don't agree with seems to me to be ironic.

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"Though I fail to see where calling gay people "intelligent, creative individuals who are fun to be around" as patronizing."

Well obviously.... if you could see, you wouldn't have posted it would you?

Got any more obvious things for me?

I'm also a gay guy living in a country that's about one call to prayer away from being Mecca (it's called the UK... for now)that's another thing that makes me cranky. I'm sure you've got some weak BS you can try to counter that with, too.

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You are from the UK. That explains a lot! I am from the USA. I never picked up that you are from England.
Sorry about the state of affairs in your country.

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What state do you live in? I guess you are not a trump supporter. I cannot tell.

I have no qualifications so I can't get over there. Rich Saudis have bought so much stuff in this country, in the last 5 or 10 years. It is turning more Islamic here every day. I just had a small argument with my mother about it today but she basically made her excuses and said she "didn't want to argue about it" - because the Islamification of our country is a scary thing that most people are far, far too weak to try to deal with it, oppose it, or even acknowledge/understand in the first place.

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I live in Massachusetts and while I think Trump is a blowhard, his decisions concerning our economy, before this pandemic hit, were actually helping to restore some kind of positive feelings.
Anyways, please understand that I have nothing against gay people. I was just making a comment on the original poster's apparent lack of knowledge of 1960s attitudes towards gay people.
So, have a nice life, and I hope you find what you are looking for.

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I hope you find what you are looking for.


A magical button that deletes Islam from existence? (and also magically puts all its brain-dead defenders/appeasers/apologisers in unbreakable handcuffs so I can do what I want to them with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire?) Why yes, I hope I find that too but I dont think I will..

I have no doubt that me bringing up the vile topic of Pisslam is why you are running away from the conversation. (Just like Brits do)

You're obviously very very intellectually and cognitively limited if you think a gay guy can have "a nice life" in not-so-great Britainistan.

If you dont want to talk about Pisslam, obviously that shows it cant be very good can it.

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I also had expressed in a post that people in the United States in the 1960s weren't okay with gay marriage. I admit I don't agree with homosexuality but people can choose to do what they want as far as I'm concerned. But I don't have to agree with it. To be fair I also think it's wrong for someone to have sex with multiple people. I know some people myself that are guilty of the later and I think they are mentally ill. To just have sex with multiple people you don't even really care about that much is just nuts. I'm sorry if those views offend you.

Thing is I am a Christian born and raised and the bible does say those things are wrong. You can feel free to not agree with those views and I am not angry about it. And yeah. I admit I voted Trump and he is guilty of the very thing I said I was against but I felt Hillary was more corrupt. I know that's not a popular opinion on the internet. Then again you end up almost always having to vote for someone you don't like or vote for someone in a 3rd party you know isn't going to win. But I refuse to do the later cause I feel like it's just throwing a vote away.

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I guess someone was gonna make this thread.

It's because of the fact that homosexuality was still relatively "taboo" and disapproved of in 1994, that they were able to portray such a sweet "close" friendship between two men without it being considered gay. Of course it was set in earlier 20th century America too which makes it even more "non-gay". I guess to modern audiences their friendship seems a little syrupy.

As a homo myself (and a fan of interracial sex) I have definitely never had a thing for Morgan Freeman.

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