question about 4 and 5


Its been awhile since i have seen 4 and 5 so i was wanting to ask two questions:1.Does andre toulons ghost come back to help the puppets in 4 and 5?2.Does the evil elder god sutec get killed during the time of 4 and 5?

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* Andre Toulon has seen the error of his ways in part 2 and his ghost returns and possess the body of his strongest puppet Decapitron.

* Sutek turns himself into Totem in our world, making him vulnerable (or w/e) and he gets blasted to death.

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both, toulon and the puppets decide to become good? when did the movie estate that? they killed him! and how about the six gun doll, he didnt exist before ep 3, its contraditory

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both, toulon and the puppets decide to become good? when did the movie estate that? they killed him! and how about the six gun doll, he didnt exist before ep 3, its contraditory


What?


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Translated from Idiot, he's saying that the sudden switch from bad to good by Toulon and the puppets makes no sense, which I agree with. Although, the common agreement is Rick is the new puppet master and since he's the first with good intentions, the puppets just go along with him. Which means the puppets aren't good or evil, they just follow their master. They are, after all, puppets.

He's also saying that Six Shooter is in III, which is a prequel, but since he's not in one or two, him just showing up makes no sense at all. He's right about that too. Not to mention Torch being MIA in 4 and just showing up in 5. The ball was seriously dropped with these two, especially after how great the first three were.

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He's also saying that Six Shooter is in III, which is a prequel, but since he's not in one or two, him just showing up makes no sense at all. He's right about that too.

He wasn't in the first, he was invented until the third film which was a prequel yes. He was obviously such a popular character he was brought in as if the first two either never really happened, or he was just still in the puppet trunk. Maybe Neil Gallagher didn't have enough of the fluid?

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it sucked that there was no leech or torch !!!!! They cut these puppets as they did not have enough budget !!!!!

So what...they still could of walked around and did not have to attack

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"Which means the puppets aren't good or evil, they just follow their master. They are, after all, puppets."
According to part they are not just puppets. They're people who were killed by nazis.

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it sucked that there was no leech or torch !!!!! They cut these puppets as they did not have enough budget !!!!!

Torch was in part 5, which is one of the reason 5 is better than 4. Both are good though.

According to David Pabian (writer of part 2) Charles Band wanted Leech-Woman killed off. Can you believe that? I guess she wasn't going anywhere. But then part 3 reinvented her as the reincarnation of Elsa Toulon. Why she never returned until part 6 is a mystery. Maybe she just didn't fit with these films, she couldn't fight the Totems.

It would've been quite a dramatic scene to see Leech-Woman and Decaptrion reunited. They are Elsa and Andre Toulon you udnerstand.

"Which means the puppets aren't good or evil, they just follow their master. They are, after all, puppets."
According to part they are not just puppets. They're people who were killed by nazis.

Yes, so deep, deep down they're good humans. But probably forget their past memories and become puppets. Which explains why they are okay with murder in the first two films. And why Doctor Hess, a good scientist, in the body of Blade suddenly becomes a murder loving lunatic. They forget themselves and literally become their puppet character.

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3 is the obvious start of the reboot for it takes places in 1941 yet in Part 1, Toulon kills himself in 1939.

You sure that's not just an obvious continuity error?


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3. Jester was built in the first film, yet is present in the 3rd.

Maybe he was being repaired?

[quote4. Blade was already made in the first film, but is created in Nazi Germany.[/quote]
Still the continuity error. He should've been built in 1939, weeks before the opening of the original. It's just that "1941" mistake again.


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Logically linking 3 and the following movies after 3 with 1 and 2 is not possible.

No, you just have to work at it.


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Part 1 includes the serum. Neil bleeds green because he's filled with the serum.

Linking the movies together obviously requires a bunch of thread because they have real-world reasons why certain puppets aren't in certain movies, but yes it works out.

The dates are the only real major problem.

Because really when the formula runs out they are just puppets and it's very probable they could get lost or broken.

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