Every time I rewatch it, it becomes less interesting and more cliched.
I loved it when it came out and was fresh and amazing.
Now it just sound like Tarantino speaking his pop obsessed overworked dialogue with every single character, cramming in way too many little accidents and "original" bits to feel pertinent or confidently crafted.
It feels now overly manufactured and trying way too hard, I guess after losing its sugar gloss all that's left has too little nutrition value to hold my interest over decades, like a good joke that has now become stale and outdated.
It was overly talky even back in 1994. But it was still a revelation in terms of the sensibility it brought to general public (most of whom had never seen anything like it). Tarantino has always been too in love with his own dialogue. He could've benefited from a writing partner who was willing to edit him, but he's too big for that now. At this point, he could probably deliver a 200 page first draft and get a green light.
You just described QT's movies from the last 18 years.
Pulp Fiction works just fine today and you can tell that he misses his original film editor who died several years ago and her ability to cut down QT's scenes really elevates his stock footage. With all of the overly commercialized and sanitized urban dramas made these days this movie is still fresh and raw as it never pandered to the sensibilities of the decade in which it was released which was itself becoming overly sanitized and schmaltzy.
You wanna tell me that this cartoonish, comedic, Disney gangsta of a movie is something raw and gritty and realistic?
Reservoir Dogs is that. PF is the colorized, sanitized version of it. But there are hundreds harsher, grittier movies than anything Tarantino has made, I don't think that's his forte anyway, quite the opposite indeed.
I agree that in the last 25 years lots of movies have been cleaned or neutered at their loss.
But my gripe with PF is how it looks less and less cool the older it gets.
Maybe after so many other Tarantino movies I start to notice how repetitive and unoriginal PF has become.
"Maybe after so many other Tarantino movies I start to notice how repetitive and unoriginal PF has become."
Lol, you're faulting the movie for the mistakes of its successors. A movie doesn't suddenly become repetitive and unoriginal because later movies keep following the same formula.
Not that loling, you know, you do an awesome stunt and it looks awesome.
You repeat it 30 times in a row and yes, that stunt will look less awesome, including the first one.
It's not just the last one to be part of an unoriginal group, it's all of them.
"You're faulting the movie for the mistakes of its successors. A movie doesn't suddenly become repetitive and unoriginal because later movies keep following the same formula."
Did it really take you that much time to figure out he was doing the same stunt over and over again?
That is surely possible.
But I am not sure that's the case for me here.
I have seen PF a hundred times, but also many other great movies that are still fresh like the first time.
The main problem with PF is the time that has passed, with all the copycats and the other Tarantino movies after PF. After seeing more of his style and of him, you start seeing THAT in PF much more, and I find it annoying and underwhelming. That is why it's aging badly.
So if you wouldn't have seen other copycats and other QY movies it would still be fresh and original?
Then again, maybe is not the movie and it's you ... we all develop biases over time and I would say this time is on you. Yes, QT has his style and tropes and his 10th movie can be "unoriginal" but I would blame rather your cultivated bias (and QT's style) than the movie ;)
Not really. Dig deeper.
Ok, my cultivated bias COULD be at fault, but the following 30 years have mostly uncovered lots of PF that seemed cool at first, and turned out to be lame under such light.
It's as if PF showed us only the cool face of its intentions, while in reality it was (often) something else.
One instance: Jules talking about fucking and foot massages. Great bit of dialogue, innovative and stylish and cool.
Then QT reveals he has a fucking foot fetish. Which he has to cram into every single fucking piece of celluloid he touches. So, what seemed something, turned into something else (lame and annoying and forced).
That's not just bias or developing a bias or me. That's HIS work, this movie, looking as something but truly being something else.
With time and more exposure of the film, its author, and its copycats, you start seeing things that you didn't at first, and most of it is not a bonus.
I don't follow your logic. Because Tarantino likes feet, suddenly his dialogue is flawed if it concerns feet? He wrote an excellent bit of dialogue for that scene. How or why he was inspired to do so is immaterial.
No, it is not immaterial. Quite the opposite.
It's like understanding his true intentions. You dig?
In 1994 it looked and sounded great, what a fun bit of dialogue between two hitmen about to do their work!
Now, it sounds like "Oh, there it is, the foot fetish bullshit shoved down our throats once again....".
Nahhh. I’d like to add to this. It’s still Jules and Vincent going about their daily routine as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think any film ages badly because I always take into account when they were made, and I don’t judge them against current films.
I don't make that connection at all. He wrote a great script, filled with interesting and memorable dialogue. That he has a foot fetish changes nothing to me. It's like saying that learning that Woody Allen is neurotic in real life somehow lessens the impact of the scripts he wrote about neurotic men.
I think that's an overly cynical take. I didn't use to appreciate Tarantino, but I've come to realize he's a satirist. He's a huge fan of movies, just like us. And, he's watched thousands of movies repeatedly, just like us. He just takes what he's enjoyed and makes mashups. Pulp Fiction is still solid, but I can see people getting tired of it since it has so saturated the pop culture.
Maybe you have not watched it enough times. It gets old, and the more distance you get from it, the more frivolous and vain it gets. The dialogues, characters, stories start grating as artificial. In PF Tarantino is so much in love with his own words it just gets creepy, as if we are walking in on him jerking off, think like when Butch walks in on Vincent takin a shit. Only Tarantino wants us to see this.
Also, satire is the wrong term. He barely remixes references but rarely ever comments on them.
I wouldn't call Puff daddy or his ilk satiric musicians. They just steal other people's work and remix it a little for their ignorant audience.
Tarantino in PF is not as bad, but he is in later movies, and he's never commenting, just stealing and remixing.
I don't disagree. It was once an absolute favorite film of mine. I was the just right impressionable angry 17 year old when it came out. Overly obsessed with cinema. It was a perfect fit. I definitely watched it far, far too many times over the years. The second to last time I watched it, I quite dis-enjoyed it, and feared i'd simply seen it too many times. I've burned out on other great movies from over-indulgence. So I put it on a shelf and didn't revisit it for years and years. Till finally, I went back again after being disappointed with Once Upon a Time. I wanted a dose of QT at his best. And I hated it. There's a few brilliant scenes, but mostly what I saw was the Tarantino-isms that have become so rampant in his later films. I don't think it's just being jaded and older now, this movie really isn't that good. Even back then he was terribly self-indulgent. I'm sure this movie still has strong appeal for young people exploring the treasures of cinema for the first time. It's a very slick and very well produced feature. But there's no meat under the sizzle. As opposed to say, a master of the genre like Scorcese, whose films can be very stingy on style but you always get a new impression from watching them. Especially as you age, you begin to interpret his work in entirely new ways. Character actions that once seemed confusing suddenly make sense to you. That sort of thing. But QT's work is just, like a music video. Still looks cool. But the music doesn't speak to me anymore. Anyhow, I still think Vincent's date night with Mia is simply wonderful.