If you love this movie but hate Jerry Seinfeld you should really ask yourself what kind of person you are on the inside.
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That is the first time I have ever heard of the comparison.
Do you care to explain or expand your analogy?
I think OP means Pulp Fiction is one of the first "post-modern" type films.
Meaning there are no heroes, only scumbags- and a story that seems to be about nothing on the surface.
Seinfeld is pretty much the first sitcom to feature all jerks in the main roles.
Anyway this post made me LOL so .. good.
I never thought of this comparison, but yes!
QT was probably inspired by it and The Betrayal episode went back in time. Maybe the Seinfeld people were doing a send up?
That episode is an homage to the play BETRAYAL by Harold Pinter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betrayal_(play)
Thanks for the info!
shareYour definition of a "post-modern" film is that "there are no heroes, only scumbags - and a story that seems to be about nothing on the surface."
That sounds a lot like (the overrated) "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly," released almost 3 decades earlier, except that film lacks the potent message of "Pulp Fiction" (i.e. God's grace and redemption). In other words, mainstream films like this have been around decades longer than you suggest.
And the description of the main cast of Seinfeld being "jerks" is too vague to hold much meaning. How is it that they could each be negatively summarized as a "jerk"? One could make the same argument about the cast of, say, Gilligan's Island (except maybe Mary Ann). Jerry and Elaine seem pretty normal to me; Jerry's just really particular about his significant other. George is pretty normal as well; he's just a liar who's a cheapskate (neither of which are very rare traits). And Kramer's a quirky eccentric, but is otherwise likable and respectable.
But, let's say the cast of Seinfeld are jerks, that's a far cry from the nonchalant hit men (murderers), drug addicts/dealers, gangsters (career criminals), etc. in "Pulp Fiction." The Jerry-lookalike hiding in the back room with a gun is the only glaring parallel to Seinfeld.
Lastly, films being about nothing on the surface but are actually deeper commentaries have been around forever. Is "The Elephant Man" (1980) merely a biography of the deformed Joseph Merrick's last six years of life? It doesn't have to be anything more, of course, but there is an interesting deeper subtext that's not as glaring as the one observed in "Pulp Fiction."
Sure.. but you are comparing this to the 'revisionist' western, aka post-western type of film. Even so "the Good, the Bad and the Ugly" did have a story. It was also created after the height of actual hero westerns of the 40s 50s.
Pulp Fiction is about nothing. It is genre-less. It is within this lack of description I used the phrase "one of the first post-modern films" I didn't say it's the only one, OR the first.
If you watch the film in a chronological order it even feels like a Seinfeld episode.
Either way I think the OP was meant to be a joke.. even though I do enjoy that the responses created a pseudo-intellectual discussion.
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It's all good; I'm just dialoguing.
But I disagree that "Pulp Fiction" is genre-less and about nothing.
As far as genre goes, it's obviously an amusing crime/drama/thriller. I mean "amusing" in the black comedy sense naturally.
And it's not about nothing. It's about the discernment to recognize God's grace and wisely change course accordingly. The stage for this (glaring) message is several lost souls from Los Angeles centering around the hitmen Jules and Vincent. Jules wisely recognizes grace while lunkhead Vincent doesn't; the wages of repentance (changing one's mind for the good) is life while "the wages of sin is death."
Even the seemingly irrelevant dialogue about the Royale with Cheese and Le Big Mac held meaning in that it showed how hardened these hitmen were to have casual, humorous banter just before carrying out their job of wiping people off the face of the earth.
Meanwhile Butch knows he's past his prime as far as boxing goes and so greedily works both sides to take the money and skip town with his cute girl. And, yet, he amazingly has the nobility to go back and save Marsellus because he wouldn't be able to live with himself to leave a man -- even someone who wants to kill him -- to the wicked abuse of gross perverts.
Or what about Mia's statement to Vincent: "That's when you know you've found somebody special. When you can just shut the f**K up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence"?
In no way is this profane masterpiece about "nothing."
“to the wicked abuse of gross perverts.”
That does describe them well.
I watched the opening scene on YouTube where Tim Roth and his girlfriend discuss the pros of robbing a Diner and i thought "Holy Cow i just watched a Seinfeld bit but for scumbags" and thats when it dawned on me that the reason people love this movie so much is because it's just Seinfeld with a cool factor. Everybody whether they know it or not love Seinfeld Minutia even if they hate Jerry Seinfeld and this movie proves it.
shareNever watched Seinfield (it's in my "to watch" list), and still Pulp Fiction is one of my favourite films.
shareWhat if you love both Pulp Fiction and Jerry Seinfeld?
shareLike a man who gets the large soda you know what you want. The Seinfeld Hater Pulp Lover is struggling between a small and a medium.
shareI love Seinfeld but didn’t care for Pulp Fiction. I found it gimmicky and gratuitously violent. I liked some scenes though. I never cared for QT’s “hommages” which always just seemed to me to be him ripping off lines he loved.
I don’t expect this to be a very popular opinion lol.
Coldblooded > Pulp Fiction
shareWhile I sort of see your point I will say the story of Butch is not like Seinfeld. I guess I feel that way cause he isn't at all humorous like the other characters. He doesn't have a Seinfeld like moment imo. The closest is his talk with the cabbie but even that isn't that humorous to me compared to the rest.
shareIt doesn't necessarily have to be humorous to be Seinfeldesque it's the minutiae
shareI see it! Seinfeld has been described as " the show about nothing" or really about funny, unfortunate or odd ones and Pulp Fiction has all these except... R rated. Cool connection.
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