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This film reallly deserved its R-rating, didn't it?




Usually, I knock-knock our MPAA (conservative folks who see and rate films pre-release) feeling as though it doesn't give a jot about rating films, because it does so rather badly or indiscriminatingly. That is, one shown breast gets balked at, by that lot, but ... copious violence seems NOT to, meriting most often just a "PG-13" rating.

Anyway, this film reallllly deserved its "R", I thought. I have to genuinely hand it to the MPAA for this one. The rating was dead-on accurate.

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I live in New Zealand and went to intermediate/junior high/middle school with someone who featured in this film and it was given an RP 16/Restricted R rating here (I've seen both), which it absolutely deserved in my opinion.

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Yeah, I usually balk at how our movie-ratings people (here in the USA) OVER-rate films that have violence and sexual content in them, but they surely didn't do that in this case! They let so much violence sliiiiiiiiide on by, but balk at over-rating anything that even hints of sex. It's stupid, crazy and prudish.

Say, who'd you go to school with (that was featured in the film)? Do you know one of the actors, then?


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Here in France we're not easily shocked about nudity and violence, but truly, this movie is SICK and I hope it had a PG16 when it went out.
By sick I mean terrible and sometimes unbearable, but still it's an amazing movie.

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bonheura,

I'm American and I also am not easily shocked by nudity, sex, and depictions of sexuality in films. I can live without violence, but in this film it was not at all gratuitous, which was almost refreshing. That said, the abuse scenes were something else, I must say, and well choreographed to say the very least!

You thought the film was "sick"? Mmmmm, not I. Many Maori didn't even want it made, due to its realism. But, the film HAD to be made and bring things to light that hadn't been brought to the forefront priour. I thought the film was wonderfully made, well written, well cast and that Rena Owen was mind-blowingly good!

I also very much liked the fact that the film was based on a book written by a Maori, screenwritten by a Maori woman, and largely acted by Maoris, save for the people who played the cops, attorneys and the Judge! They were White, it seemed to me. A-maaazing opportunities for Maoris to play themselves and get jobs, too! Not to mention that the director was Maori. Really great and good to see a film that really was about one of their own, as well.

Oh, and I just want to state that I don't think all Maori people are violent & abusive, so please no one assume that I do, alright?
Just that the story of one family troubled by abuse needed to be put out there and told. And, it was!



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bonheura,

I'm American and I also am not easily shocked by nudity, sex, and depictions of sexuality in films. I can live without violence, but in this film it was not at all gratuitous, which was almost refreshing. That said, the abuse scenes were something else, I must say, and well choreographed to say the very least!

You thought the film was "sick"? Mmmmm, not I. Many Maori didn't even want it made, due to its realism. But, the film HAD to be made and bring things to light that hadn't been brought to the forefront priour. I thought the film was wonderfully made, well written, well cast and that Rena Owen was mind-blowingly good!

I also very much liked the fact that the film was based on a book written by a Maori, screenwritten by a Maori woman, and largely acted by Maoris, save for the people who played the cops, attorneys and the Judge! They were White, it seemed to me. A-maaazing opportunities for Maoris to play themselves and get jobs, too! Not to mention that the director was Maori. Really great and good to see a film that really was about one of their own, as well.

Oh, and I just want to state that I don't think all Maori people are violent & abusive, so please no one assume that I do, alright?
Just that the story of one family troubled by abuse needed to be put out there and told. And, it was!



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NC-17 would have been better, as regarding the situation with Grace. She seems older but she was thirteen and the depiction of her rape was quite disturbing. Just my opinion. I am a grown man in my fifities and this scene disturbed me and her situation brought tears to my eyes after that, everytime they showed this girls suffering.

But still and all,a well made film on abusiveness and how to getting out of it.

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LOVE your Username!

Yes, NC-17 would have been a better rating, however I don't think that it was in existence back in 1993-'94. Or, was it?

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Thanks!

NC-17 came into place in 1990. just checked.

I like this movie and want to see the sequel but it hasn't been released for US Dvds yet.

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I see. I see.
Hadn't known that NC-17 came into existence so early, actually.
Thank you .

I loved this film. Love it still. Rena owen hit the ball outta the acting park, didn't she? I have found the whole film online uncut and also interviews with the actors. Don't have time to link you right now, but, I will later on (busy online, listening to a few things as I write this, so ...)

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I have the DVD of the first one. She is one hell of an actress. This is the only thing i have seen any of these people in. When she told him to kill her after giving him the slave talk (after he said to his kids that no one would ever call him a slave)i was cheering her on. She came out with scars and but she came out whole.

If you are talking about the second one, sure. When you get a chance. Thanks!!!!

I am curious to know how this guy redeems himself or if he ever does.

I heard there's a third book -- Jake's Shadow.

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Moosefeathers:

I have the DVD of the first one.

Oh, you mean just "Once were Warriors"? That's the movie I was talking about.
If you are talking about the second one, sure.

No, I wasn't. I haven't seen the sequel, "What becomes of the broken-hearted". I don't have much interest in seeing that one. That film was lousily reviewed, as well.

Yes, OWW's is the only film in which I've ever seen Ms. Owen and Mr. Morrison. And, wasn't it fabulous that the film made it stateside, too?
I can remember being so taken aback by the depiction of domestic violence in the movie, the likes of which I have never seen priour.

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Morrison is in the last two of the Star Wars Prequels as Jango Fett, Bobba Fetts father... Rena Owen has been in numerous Australian and New Zealand TV shows. She is FANTASTIC in a film called Dance Me To My Song!!! Its an Australian film that deals with the disabled, its extremely confronting but VERY goid. It is hard to get a hold of even here in Australia, but is well worth the effort. Perhaps ebay?

As for What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted? its a good movie, but NOWHERE near the caliberof Once Were Warriors.



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