Can someone tell me what happened to daniel and his mother in part 4? how did they cover Ralph Macchio's absence in the script? Has it something to do with the end of part 3(don't remember if there is something special apart from just a victory).
I havent seen this in ages and don't remember....but i think it should be ridiculous not to mention.
It appears that Miyagi is in Boston, attending a War Memorial service and visiting the wife of an old friend (the grandmother of Hilary Swank) and therefore doesn't have Daniel with him, nor is he anywhere near (I don't know if you know US geography, but Boston and California are on opposite sides of the country).
He mentions Daniel, though, so I don't think there's an intentional "leave Daniel out of it" effort.
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A more fluent explanation, original poster, would be that he was attending college, as is pointed out by Mr. Miyagi.
shareWas Daniel in college? I missed that part. I always assumed that the reason he wasn't in this movie was because he was now an adult who had moved on with his life and that this film took place 9 years after the events of part III. Remember the first film takes place in '84, part II takes place 6 months later as it states at the beginning and part III takes place 6 months after that placing the events of part III 1 year after the events of part I (thus taking place at the next tournament in '85. The beginning of the Next Karate Kid doesn't state how much time has passed since the previous film but Miyagi looks much older and the film was released in '94 and nothing in the film points to it taking place in '85, '86, '87, etc so its reasonable to believe it does take place in '94 - nine years after the events of the previous film.
share"but because Ralph Manccio, who played Daniel, was aging (he was 33 during the making of the film) they replaced Daniel with Julie."
so this is the original incarnation of two and a half men: two aging men
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They ARE????? Oh, thank you for that.
shareI don't think Daniel was supposed to be in this movie. That's why they called it the NEXT Karate Kid
it wasn't actually The Karate Kid Part IV, it was the NEXT karate kid
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No offense to the other people, but yeah, that is the reason why it's called the NEXT Karate Kid. Some people are just slow.
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That does not mean they did NOT have another title planned out before NEXT. It's common sense to think that.
shareI know Ralph Macchio was not supposed ot be in the movie but wouldent Daniel attend the military ceremony with Myagi since they were so close they could of @ least had a phone convo with Myagi telling Daniel to stay in college. Dose anybody know if they asked Ralph to be in the movie even in a short cameo ??
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doubtful with pat morita's death it wouldn't be the same
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The only mention of Daniel in the film is when Miyagi is explaining to Julie that he "used to live with boy, Daniel-san." That's it.
And this movie is a ridiculous suckfest. But that's another topic.
"A more fluent explanation, original poster, would be that he was attending college, as is pointed out by Mr. Miyagi."
You're trying to tell me Mr. Miyagi's Little Tree bonzai store from KK3 didn't make Danny Boy an overnight multi-millionaire?
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"You're trying to tell me Mr. Miyagi's Little Tree bonzai store from KK3 didn't make Danny Boy an overnight multi-millionaire?"
LOL yeah really, I can't believe they didn't make enough money to retire from a bonzai tree store in some crack neighborhood in LA
I think Daniel would have been long since out of college. Wonder what college he would've gone to?
shareI heard a rumour of a possible remake of "The Karate Kid" featuring a much younger "kid" this time. Recently, they released a similarly themed movie called: "Never Backdown"(2008)
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We're supposed to believe the movie is set in 1994....with that, it makes perfect sense that Daniel is NOT in this movie. Its got nothing to do with Ralph Macchio being too old, its the fact the movie is centered around the NEXT karate kid.
If 9 years has passed since the original karate kid events, basically Daniel not being around means he moved on with his life, that simple logic. Mr Miyagi is supposed to take care of Hillary Swank's character now, which is why the movie transitioned the way it did.
It did mention Daniel once but more of a tip of the hat. What they should have done was have Ralph "pass the torch" so to speak the same way Emilio Estevez gave the lead over to Joshua Jackson in Mighty Ducks 3 (another sequel that never should have been made)
MIYAGI: Julie-san, hello. So, how was school today?
JULIE: What's wrong with you? Are you crazy? You're supposed to knock before you come into a girl's room!
MIYAGI: Very, very sorry. Miyagi apologize. Very sorry. Oh, very sorry.
JULIE: Okay, I'm dressed. You can look now.
MIYAGI: Miyagi apologize. You see... before, live with friend, Daniel-san. Daniel-san come Miyagi room, Miyagi go Daniel-san room. No big thing. A boy is easier.
JULIE: Just forget about it, okay?
MIYAGI: Okay. Today, Miyagi go pick up Julie-san at the school... but you not there.
After the negative reaction to the 3rd movie, Ralph Macchio declined to appear in any more sequels. That was the main reason he wasn't in this one. His age may have had something to do with his decision as well. If you ask me, I don't think this one was necessary. It flopped at the box office for obvious reasons.
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The reason why Ralph Macchio didn't appear in this was because he told Columbia Pictures that he didn't want to appear in any more of these after KK3. In fact, he publically said that he didn't want to be known as the "Sylvester Stallone of Karate Kid Movies" (in reference to the series of Rocky films that were being made one after the other) and that he wasn't "interested in doing 12 sequels". He said also that he wanted to try and play different characters. He actually did that after KK2 by starring alongside Robert Deniro in a play called Cuba and his Toy Bear. He also publically said that Robert Deniro was an actor he admired greatly and always wanted to work with him.
Again, the reason described above is why he didn't appear in the NKK. Coulmbia Pictures respected that and after KK3, he was released to do whatever he wanted careerwise.
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I always hoped that Miyagi got tired of Daniel's whining and killed him with a karate chop.
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It couldn't hurt for Ralph Macchio to have a cameo appearance in the movie. I know someone else might have already mentioned this, but this could have made the movie more pleasant to watch.
I mean, yeah, this movie starred a then-unknown Hilary Swank, but if Macchio reprised his role as Daniel in here, he would have at least showed up somewhere towards the end of the movie.
I can picture it as this: After Mr. Miyagi says his last lines "Fighting not good, but if must fight. Win," it then cuts to Daniel making a cameo smiling (from a distance behind Julie) at Mr. Miyagi himself.
Another cameo I'd picture would be that Miyagi phoned him at some point and would ask him how he's doing (this would take place after Miyagi accidentally walks in on Julie while she's changing and shuts the door on him and when she's dressed, Miyagi mentions a time when he trained his previous student Daniel on how to defend himself). Miyagi then gets to the point of asking him to come to Boston and assist the new girl Julie in her karate skills. Daniel comes over to Julie's house address and does so.
Who thinks these are good ideas???
I think Ralph Maccio could have made an appearance as a cameo in the beginning and possibly the end of the film as a passing of the torch to Julie. I guess another way Daniel could have returned is if Miyagi decides to retire from karate teaching at the end of the film and offers Daniel the job as Julie's mentor. It woud have been interesting to see a new trilogy with Daniel as Julie's mentor.
shareI also noticed that the film makes no proper mention of what happened to Daniel and what he has been up to?
shareNo proper mention of Daniel?
"Boys are easier" comes to mind.
Now while that's not the best example, Miyagi does refer to Daniel by name and makes another reference to him when he accidentally walks in on Julie while she's undressing.
At some point Daniel would have to take on some other role for that character to stay with the franchise since the movies are called The Karate KID, not The Karate MAN, lol :)
I also enjoyed seeing Ralph Macchio in My Cousin Vinny, albeit his part wasn't very big
Actually, Daniel is not a real person, but a simply a character played by Ralph Macchio. I believe that "Daniel" went on to take up guitar playing with actor Joe Seneca travelling through the Mississippi Delta banging Jamie Gertz. He later played in a musical battle against the devil which made him far too busy to get his azz saved by Mr. Myogi yet again.
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Danielle did not survive his encounter with Mike Barnes in Karate Kid III. If he had, Mr. Silver would have found out about what he did to poor Judy in Newark and used his wealth and influence to get the authorities to bring him to justice.
shareStop being silly. Barnes was killed by Silver.
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Aside from everything else that everyone has already covered, I think the theory that Daniel-san was not in was because he had moved on is moot. I mean, how do you just 'move on' from the deep friendship like he and Mr. Miyagi had? Nahhh, they just had to be vague because the focus was on the girl and because the actor didn't want to be involved. La dee da. What a shame they soiled the name on this film.
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