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Tong Po...yeah right!

posted 18 years ago by blingblinger4
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What a bunch of junk! Michel Qissi in the first 2 kickboxers kicked butt, but this joker, Kamel Krifia or whatever, is a laughing stock. Noticed when he fights his poor make up job cause his scalp to become wrinkled, making it an obvious bald wig. And what about his eyelids? And even his body just looks way too different and his obvious change in his accent. And where was Xian? The coolest part of the movie was the retracing of old memories and they showed clips from the previous films, there was a scene where I beleive the original Tong Po played by Qissi gets spit on, I thought that was cool b/c I had never seen that in the previous movies. If anyone knows of any interesting facts about the movie, such as where Xian went, where that scene came from, why the *beep* they made this such a crappy film..then respond please!!

[–] ebbosl 18 years ago

"Why such a crappy film?" Two words: Albert Pyun.
But then again, I liked 'Kickboxer 2' alot.
Give a monkey a typewriter and he'll type Shakespeare; the same thing with Pyun and directing motion pictures. 'Kickboxer 2' was the only half-way decent film he ever laid his grimy hack fingers on.
I ain't yer pal, dickface.

[–] 2804 18 years ago

Kickboxer 2 wasn't written by Albert Pyun, it was written by David Goyer the writter of Blade Trilogy & Batman begins.

[–] ebbosl 18 years ago

I know, I was talking about Pyun as a director. Although I can see where you're coming from- he wrote the story for 'Kickboxer 4.' That explains why it was so far-fetched.

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[–] fmarkland32 18 years ago

Yeah remember the part where they try to pass off Tong Po as a board certified shrink as well as a visionary record producer. It was at this moment I gave up trying to watch it logically.

I still loved Kickboxer 1-4...

[–] perrymehta1 15 years ago

ray jackson:

u and me both. i think kickboxer 2 is 10x better than 1, 4, and 5. not 3 though. i think 3 is the best film in the series. therefore, 3 is the best sequel, followed by 2, and finally 4. 5 i don't really consider as part of the series. 4 is the decent sequel. my fav part was the 3 some scene. those 2 chicks were f!!!!!g hottttttttttt. the guy was so lucky. like i'm ever gonna score. look at me:

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[–] sandrock41 9 years ago

3?! 3 was stupid, it was just filler. It had nothing to do with the movies that came before or after it. It was like a "here's a random wacky adventure we went on one time". It wasn't even about kickboxing, Sloan was like some kind of DIY commando. It was dumb.

[–] thelocalantihero 18 years ago

I just thought it was a bit out there when they made Tong Po into a complete chatterbox. Remember in the other movies when he would only say a few words? He's talking all over the place now! Isn't that strange?

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[–] cosmicsunburn 17 years ago

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Now that i finished laughing after watching the first part where you see kamal krifia as tong po and how he says it.

Even if you were blind and listened to tong po's voice in the first kickboxer and the second even they would know that it wasn't the original.

[–] JIM_KELLYS_AFRO 17 years ago

They made Tong Po into some Tranvestite looking chatter box!!
Very out of character!

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[–] HeinziX 12 years ago

Especially bold is the fact, that there are DVD covers of KB 4 which show the original Tong Po ..!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Kickboxer_4_FilmPoster.jpeg

[–] RequiredFields 17 years ago

Yeah, what was with that? The makeup job was especially ridiculous. In some scenes he looked passable, in others it was hilarious how bad he looked.

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[–] TheHardTarget6 17 years ago

Pyun did direct the martial arts classic Cybrog. So that is the best film he ever got to direct!

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[–] CrazyJim2004 16 years ago

"Pyun did direct the martial arts classic Cybrog. So that is the best film he ever got to direct!"

I thought he did good work in "Kickboxer 2", not so much in this one. He also managed to make the long-forgotten "Ticker" starring Tom Sizemore, Steven Seagal, Nas, Jamie Pressley, Dennis Hopper, and others. Despite an entertaining cast, it actually was a rather big shiny turd.

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[–] tim-993 17 years ago

I actually thought it was someone else under the makeup. If you look at his face in the close up shots, I swear you can see Jean Claude Van Damme in there. Or maybe it's just me.

[–] dork8503 17 years ago

LOL i thought the same thing the first time i watched the movie,

what ever happen to xian, it never says, someone help

[–] brickbardo81 16 years ago

I'm guessing that the make up started to melt in the Mexican heat, that's all I can say. He does sometimes look okay but then other times just ridiculous. 2.4 out of 10 is ridiculous for such a movie, since what the hell does expect from a movie like this outside of people kicking the crap out of each other? . Something that this movie accomplishes.

Plus when you get the brilliant line "GO PO!" as Tong Po starts raping David Sloan's wife, you know you've got a classic bad movie on your hands. I mean any movie that can make rape hilarious, is a movie that is brilliant in its Bad Movie charm. Also the fights were good, the production values were decent for type of film and of course even Albert Pyun was better than usual from behind the camera. At least it wasn't as dull the third one. That movie sucked even as a Bad Movie, which at least this one works as.

Other favorite lines aside from the classic "Go Po"?

"You fight or die!"

"Maybe i'll make you my girlfriend"

"When Tong Po finds out, the sound of thousand bricks shi t ting at once"

"I'm Mr. Smith, and i'm nobody's agent"

"I'm going to retire from unemployment" and of course the best line of the film

"Just how hard are you Mr. Smith?"
"Uh, Hard Enough"

Also add in the fact that Sasha Mitchell is disguising himself with only a pair of shades (!), the world's greatest bar fight (Watch Mitchell use a stool to plaster someone in the head after deflecting darts is legendary) and a final fight that is complete with picnic tables and chairs. Plus a great threesome scene with two hot chicks making out (Damn you Pyun for cutting it at the moment of truth) Sasha Mitchell using a pool pooper scooper to fight bad guys and of course that ridiculous make up job add up to a movie that deserves at least a 3.8-4.2 Also what is Sasha Mitchell's alias? "Jack Jones" because Jim Jones sounds a tad too suspicous. Also why on earth was Sasha Mitchell in the DEA after being a kickboxing champ? Not to mention how Sasha Mitchell's wife has been gone for a year in Tong Po's clutches. Another great scene was how Tong Po executed the fighters who didn't want to fight to the death. Classic. Just a classic this movie is.

[–] psf22 16 years ago

brickbardo81.. Are you pasting lines from badmovieknights.com or something??
Because some of your lines seem kinda 'stolen'

[–] brickbardo81 16 years ago

I happen to be the same person who wrote that review for Bad Movie Knights, and I reviewed the other 4 films.

I am Ryan from said site.

[–] oaksie93 15 years ago

Dude, I thought the same thing!!!

[–] thelocalantihero 15 years ago

I would very much like to know when exactly did Tong Po become a certified psychotherapist and a visionary record producer. WOW, he sure did a lot in the entire gap from Kickboxer 2 all the way to Kickboxer 4, not to mention he somehow became a Mexican drug lord along the way! Tong Po is the ultimate evil Renaissance Man!

In all seriousness though(just to add to my previous post), didn't anyone else find it comical how Tong Po not only ran his mouth constantly, but was portrayed a total coward? It was a bit off-setting how after being an unstoppable monster in the first two Kickboxer films that Tong Po seemed afraid to fight David in Part 4 and crawled out of his fortress(Tong Po's fighting skills were also very dismal during his clash with David as well). Disappointing...

[–] Herreken 13 years ago

Yeah, they really destroyed the character of Tong Po, ha ha. He was nowhere near as intimidating as he was in the first two movies. I wonder why they couldn't get Michael Qisi. Maybe he didn't want to do it? I haven't seen Kickboxer 5 yet, but I'm assuming that Tong Po returns since he escaped (by crawling away) at the end of Kickboxer 4? That was a funny scene ha ha.

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[–] Doc110894 13 years ago

They need to bring back Tong Po once last time.

[–] thelocalantihero 13 years ago

Herreken,

I wish I could say they continued the Sloan/Tong Po rivalry in another movie, but David was killed in Kickboxer 5 at the very beginning of the start credits. The new protagonist is Mark Dacascos' character (the name escapes me at the moment) and they were gonna have him fight Po, but I guess this was scrapped in place of some other dismal storyline. In hindsight, it's a shame this was never resolved.

[–] Herreken 13 years ago

Yeah I eventually saw Kickboxer 5. Dacascos had some impressive moves but he wasn't much of a kickboxer. Killing off yet another Sloan character was a bad idea.

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[–] thelocalantihero 13 years ago

The worst part about these movies at the end of the day was not only did Tong Po never really get his comeuppance, but the entire Sloan family was killed off without reason, rhyme nor justice. The Kickboxer film series was just killed off without resolution.

[–] destroyerwod 12 years ago

Well if Kickboxer 2 made some sense, even tough we never hear of David in the first movie, the series really got into non-sense with the third and especially 4th movie. Can't say they where bad movies by themselves... just that they didn't fit into the series. Number 5 made a bit more sense as a follow up to number 2.

Got to admit the way they made Tong Po in the 4th was terrible... How can a big silent Muay Thai Fighter then become a talkative mexican drug lord is beyond me... not to mention the terrible make up on top of that.

[–] PopperTheKungFu-Dragon 9 years ago

Yeah, Tong Po may have been a bit of a coward, but he was still very intimidating. He's totally ridiculous in this version. My least favorite of the first 4 mainly because of this. Haven't seen part 5 yet.

Very good. But brick not hit back!

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