Josh...the villain?


I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Josh was such an overbearing, violent, selfish, lechorous, unpredictable, manipulating, very enveous *beep* Is anyone here who DOESN'T agree with me?

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I've always thought of Joshua as the "lost" soul out of the two brothers. He's a pretty naive man. He's basically doesn't know what he wants in life, and is sometimes careless of the circumtstances or outcomes from his misdeeds.

He's a victim of circumstances. Due to him witnessing his mother's boyfriend "Mad Dog" constantly harassing her, and that very night when he saw Mad Dog hit his mother. It's all taken it's toll on him. Plus he seemed to be the one that Mad Dog has always chosed to abuse a lot.


He's kinda the opitome of young boys growing up without a father. They become hateful and lost. The outcomes they are involved in without a "decent" father figure is what Joshua depicts in this role.




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Yes, I agree with you. At the beginning when they show Joshua as a child and he said that he didn't like his father, why that was? Because, he was more like his father, than he wanted to admit. But then, when he gets all grown up, he's so out of control; drinking (Maddog); if it wasn't for Jason holding him back he would've hit his own mother, for making a meal that he bought with drug money, and she had every right to throw it into the trash, because that's where it belonged; Joshua: Now, I can see how a man could beat you; You don't say that to your own mother, and speaking of his Mama, he stole from her at her own job that she begged her boss to give to Josh, and then bought alcohol with it, you couldn't pay me to do that to my own Mama! Then, he gets jealous because Jason has had enough of his *beep* and starts dating Lyric, and puts all of his energy into his relationship with Lyric (Jada Pinkett), and Joshua just couldn't take it anymore. His emotions about their relationship really showed when he overheard Gloria (The Boys' Mother) telling Jason to move on, telling Jason that he didn't owe her and Joshua nothing and to be happy and to go to Lyric, and I guess that's when Joshua decided that he was going to do whatever it took, to make sure that Jason stayed, he went to damn far in my mind. I guess in the end, when he committed suicide, I guess I felt kinda sad, but if Joshua would've live, he would have gotten life in prison for killing Darryl and Ron (Alonzo's Crew), and if Lyric would've died when he shot her accidentally, he would've been responsible for taking the one person in the world that his brother loved dearly, and everyone he loved, all he did basically was hurt them with his behavior and his nature, I guess he couldn't handle all that, so took it upon himself to end it, for good this time, I guess he saw that as the only way to keep from hurting more innocent people, and especially his brother, Jason. For Good This Time.

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^^Great posts here! I agree, Josh was the one that was headed down the wrong path. I thought Bokeem was very believable in this role.

"I am the ultimate badass, you do not wanna `*beep*` wit' me!" Hudson in Aliens.

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I don't believe its fair to judge a man that's mentally ill due to circumstances beyond his control.That's not to say he shouldn't be punished for his crimes because he definitely should be but, what I am saying is,there are certain factors that should be considered. I don't buy the "not having a father figure theory" because if that were true, Jason's life would've held a similar fate.If as the one Josh experienced. As the film shows, Jason was the direct opposite. Jason was the closest thing to a father figure that Josh was going to have. He was the only one that could discipline and control Josh. He was the only one Josh respected. Josh never fought Jason back and really wanted to
impress him. Josh was a young man that was lost in his own
anger and fear, his soul was
severely and irreversibly
traumatized by events he had no
control over. Bokeem Woodbine
was excellent in portraying
that character. Josh scares the
hell out of me.

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