its a man

DMJ, know how obnoxious Pat is I think Pat may have been annoyed by Chris and also wanted chris to change.

I wonder too, did Pat and Chris have sex? they both seemed in capable of getting horny and having a senual encounter with another human being.

But I think Pat is a girl because of the way She acted by Kyle's advances. If a guy came on to another guy he wouldnt say "you're not my type". he say "Im not gay, get away you *beep* fag! I rip your head off and feed it to my rabid cat!"....sorry, just remember the first time a gay person hit on me. ewwwww!

Anyways Pat kept tellign Kyle, "Im not your type" and I guy wouldnt say that. So Pat must be a girl!

And I think Pat's a lesbian too! Chris was just a really ugly girl who is played by a man just to confuse the audience more.

Being the best is not what defines greatness.

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he is cause since chris and pat are both man and woman combined if they got married than obviously their gay cause its like marrying half women half man

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I never respond to threads on this site but the last post urged me on...

I am not transgender. Pat is not either. Transgender people want to change gender. Pat is androgynous. That means that you can't tell JUST BY LOOKING. Many of you confuse that with hermaphrodite or intersex - that means you are both, biologically (SEX ORGANS).

I grew up androgynous - meaning that out in public, people could not tell if I was male or female. I am female, biologically speaking. There is no confusion. I sometimes ACT like a girl. Sometimes like a guy. I fit in with both genders. I understand both. My mind is both.

Not saying Pat is that - but likely.

Anyway, I was a child through all of that, and the way society treated me completely screwed me up. I won't get into it...it's too hard to explain. By the way, I walk down the street and appear 100% female now, 20 years later, although I make more of an effort as an adult because I experienced first hand how rude people are.

Society is angry and disgusted by people when they cannot immediately figure out their gender. They often treat people like this horribly, even if they are children, and even if they don't realize that their behavior is very hurtful.

People think this issue is funny. Or done on purpose (by Pat). Yes, the underlying theme is that gender does not matter, but that definitely does not come through in this movie. All that comes through is that everyone NEEDS to know, and finally, they do, even though Pat is utterly humiliated. Not because they know - but just to be displayed naked, most people would be embarrassed in that situation.

Yes, the jokes are funny. "I crushed my nuts". Although, this is only funny for so long - but the same is true for many SNL movies - just not enough humor for a whole film.

But the theme is missed. And that's a shame. In my opinion, the producers (or someone) didn't give a crap about actually presenting gender equality (if that was ever intended), and instead portrayed the character(s) as ugly, offensive, and somewhat of a burden on society.

You know - some other cultures (East Asia, etc) recognize that there can be a third gender - someone who is both, and not necessarily a hermaphrodite (which refers to sex organs). They have a word for it, similar to our "him" or "her". This way, we don't need to say "it" about a human being. Or, they simply have one word, and make no distinction between gender when talking about someone. They won't say him. Or her. One word will encompass all, as is the way it should be.

Some people are both IN THEIR MIND, and sometimes that is displayed outwardly. What they wear, how they walk, talk etc - and it can go back and forth. Day to day or moment to moment.

Not all of these behaviors can be used to indicate SEX. Look how that person walks - must be a man. That kind of statement is as false as saying that anyone in a pink shirt must be a woman. So many of our "gender distinctions" are completely false in the first place.

Sorry for the slight rant. The end.