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The TRUTH About Jesse James


Predictably, this movie is just like all the rest: a rehash of the same ole mainstream bullsh!t version of events.

It has been quite awhile since the 1870s, and MANY researchers have had ample time to investigate who JJ really was and what he did by poring over countless documents.

Here are the FACTS. You don't have to take my word for any of the points that follow; ENTIRE BOOKS have been written on this subject.

* Jesse James was a Freemason, and his brother Frank was a Knight of the Golden Circle (group that created the KKK). Those are the hand signs you see them making in that famous photo of them as young men standing side by side, shown in the opening images of this movie. Jesse James eventually achieved 33rd-degree status. 33rd degree is an honorary degree bestowed by invitation after the mason has ascended through the previous 32nd degrees, earned the trust of the Masons, and has done SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT TO HELP ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, WHICH ARE: (1) TO USHER IN A NEW WORLD ORDER BY STEALTH; and (2) TO DESTROY CHRISTIANITY.

* Pinkerton was also a Freemason. Freemasons take an oath NEVER to do anything to harm another Freemason. This BLOOD OATH trumps all over oaths and vows, including but not limited to marriage vows, oaths of political office (including POTUS), etc. The PENALTY for VIOLATING THAT OATH is DEATH. That is the REAL REASON that Pinkerton allowed Jesse, a fellow Mason, to get away (the Pinkerton Agency actually had SEVERAL opportunities to kill or take JJ in but never did). One way that you can SEE that Pinkerton was a Freemason was in the logo of the Agency, which was a HUGE EYEBALL, a stylized all-seeing eye.

In the movie it is very interesting that the Pinkerton character mentioned the name of John Wilkes Booth, Lincoln's assassin, who was also a 33rd-degree Freemason.

* JJ assumed SEVERAL different identities/aliases. In this movie we see him posing as a minister, "Jesse Howard," but he actually had SEVERAL. This is very important to know in understanding the points that follow.

* If you REALLY BELIEVE that B.S. story about JJ straightening a picture on the wall, turning his back to two traitors allowing them to kill him, then I have some Arizona swampland to sell you. A body was presented as belonging to Jesse James that WAS NOT HIS. This is evidenced by physical traits, including scars on the body. Jesse pulled off another one of his identity tricks, making everyone believe that he was shot and killed, but he was in fact very much alive, living to the ripe old age of 103!!

Jesse James moved to Utah, assumed yet another identity, and that person entered politics and eventually became a U.S. Senator! Now quite wealthy, he purchased a huge copper mine in Globe, Arizona. (In fact, he was SO wealthy that he was listed in the [100 or 500, can't remember which] richest people in the United States. Think about that, folks, the man was FILTHY rich, even richer than some of the "magnates" and "titans of industry" of the day.)

As stated above, he died at the age of 103 and is buried in the small family cemetery in tiny Granbury, Texas. (Again, the man "shot straightening the picture" was NOT HIM, so the "official grave" of "Jesse James" in another state with a huge marker on it WAS NOT HIS EITHER!!) Members of the James family alive at that time did their part to continue the charade. Efforts have been made to exhume the body WITH the cooperation of the present-day James descendants who WANT THE TRUTH TO BE KNOWN and have no problem with the body buried in Granbury being exhumed to prove via DNA testing once and for all that it IS in fact that of Jesse James.

Again, if you question anything that I said then do some research.

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HAHHAHAHH Someone gold told!! That old man from Texas and the old sheriff their cooked up this crock of crap story. In a time they didn't have things like photo comparison especially like they do now. In all the Jesse James documentaries they have proven him wrong. They put up pics of the old man against known photos of Jesse James more than one picture I may add and put them up against old and young pics of the Texas man there were so many differences the man said he didn't even need to point them out!! Tell me this the known photo of Jesse James hes has quite a receding hairline in his twenties now how could a man in his 100s have a full head of hair?

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Again, if you question anything that I said then do some research.



You haven't done ANY "research" other than read every nutty conspiracy book printed. The movie was closer to the truth than you are, and that ain't saying much. Keep your swampland.

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I see where you're going but who are YOU???


You and the OP should have posted some links proving your stories otherwise you're no better than some screenwriter wannabe


You don't have to stand tall, but you do have to stand up!

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The TRUTH is Jesse James is the most legendary figure in the old west!

Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH!

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He had a dedicated publicist in John Newman Edwards.

"There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church’s imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more." Richard A. Burridge, in Jesus Now and Then by Richard A. Burridge and Graham Gould.

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