Similar to Body Heat


This movie was very similar to the classic Body Heat (1981).
China Moon was a good movie, but not quite as good as Body Heat.
I was thinking this all during the movie.
Anyone else notice the similarities?

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Absolutely: the Florida settings (including driving from and back to a Miami hotel, with suspicious phone calls made from the room), the music (very John Barry-ish), and even some reminiscent dialogue. My wife and I just watched it this evening, and would periodically call out Body Heat quotes at appropriate places in China Moon: i.e., final confrontation scene in kitchen -- “I don’t know what you’re thinking, Ned, but you’re wrong!” :->

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I was thinking the same thing when I watched it. I came to this board and here was your post--you're not the only one who noticed. I think Body Heat was better, but I don't think this was a ripoff, just a similar theme. China Moon stands up well on its own in the Noir genre.

Nobody gets to be a cowboy forever.

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Yes, very similar to Body Heat ! Watching it now for the first time ever. Madeline Stowe is lovely, but no one can compare with Kathleen Turner in her prime and I believe best role. However, always liked Ed Harris and the very good looking Charles Dance. Love the scenery and am waiting now for the ending. Good movie and I am glad I found it while I was surfing !

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Yes, in fact it is so similar that it seems pointless to watch this clearly inferior film. Everything that was done so well in Body Heat, from the score on,is simply a sallow rip off in China Moon. And even though I like Ed Harris in most of his roles, he seems stiff and overacting in this film. Madeline Stowe actually doesn't seem to be able to act at all. Overdone, melodramatic, and rather boring.

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What it reminds me of is other cases where Cinematographers, like John Bailey here, try their hand at directing. Andrzej Bartkowiak (Romeo Must Die, Exit Wounds, Cradle to Grave) comes to mind. They have a great feel for how things should 'look', but not so much a sense of 'story'. So, they tend to be formulaic in their approach to plot. And it almost always turns out to be something the audience has seen plenty of. Their career as a director usually fizzles fairly quickly. There are exceptions, like Barry Sonnenfeld, but even with him I'd argue he had two really good movies (Get Shorty, Men in Black) and lots of fluff.
As opposed to actors and writers who turn to directing. Their sense of story is very strong, and the chances of long term success is greater. Eastwood, Mamet, Schrader, Helgeland, Gibson, Costner (well, Kevin actually fizzled), it's a pretty substantial list.

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>>much cooler & intelligent than 'body heat'<<

To be fair to 'Body Heat' though, you have to consider the times. In 1981, nothing fresh in this vein had been done since 'The Postman Always Rings Twice', and 'Double Indemnity' in the 40's.(both novels by James Cain, interestingly)

I think the case can even be made that the remake of Postman in early 81 is what inspired Kasdan to come up with a fresh take on the subject. The Postman remake was done as a period piece, and was much less successful than Body Heat.And, BH has stood the test of time. It's still revered as a classic. Kasdan is considered a great director, and that reputation starts with Body Heat. Followed shortly by 'The Big Chill'. The contrast in those movies shows his range.
China Moon, in this discussion as well as others, has always been seen as derivative.

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It's pretty hard to deny the comparison, whether or not it was intentional, though "Body Heat" was a much superior film. Another post mentioned "The Hot Spot," which is also quite similar. This one starts out very strong but turns into a standard whodunnit with a last-minute "logical" explanation. 6/10 stars from me.

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Similar in "Film Filth"which is all part of the NWO and The Bilderbergs.
All meant to bring what was once America....to moral debauchery.

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The crazy southern banker and his cool white suits make me give this an 8/10!

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Ten minutes into it that is what I thought

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Sure, but 13 years is long enough to wait before making another Film Noir. In the 40s they were making a new one every week.

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