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Before you call it 'feminist'...

posted 18 years ago by Lucifrix
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In another thread I saw some folks using terms like "feminism" in regard to this movie. So, at the risk of soapboxing, I beg of you, PLEASE don't confuse hatred for men with feminism!! While it's true there are some so-called "feminist icons" who bash men, luckily there are also women who call themselves feminists who appreciate that men can be and usually are perfectly decent people. "Sex-radical" or "Pro-sex" feminism is one such school of feminism, whose adherents include Nina Hartley, Annie Sprinkle, and Candida Royale of Femme Productions.

Public-service announcement over. :)

[–] wheremyhustlasat 18 years ago

the feminist remarks aren't all that subtle. they're blatant and almost obnoxious. granted not all feminists are psychotic sadist murderers but these girls blatantly preach how women are never concieved as deadly. that men don't worry about going home with a random female stranger. which is true. but they kinda beat it to death.
how many feminists does it take to change a light bulb? none, feminists can't change anything. *points finger* Zing

[–] Lucifrix 18 years ago

Some of us have actually changed quite a bit, but I should at least be grateful you didn't tell the "We don't have a humor section!" joke instead. :)

It IS in some regards feminist to point out that women are never conceived as deadly--looking at women as somehow less intrinsically violent, more pure, whatever, is that "pedestal" kind of sexism that some people engage in, thinking it's a step up when really it's just another way of limiting a person's possibilities. Taking it to the point of actually committing the acts, however, is so very much NOT feminist, and that's what concerned me. If, when they thought/said "feminist," people were seriously looking at the preaching you're referring to, then I'm very happy to have been oversensitive. However, I'm so used to people--including many women, unfortunately--thinking that feminism involves hating men that I'm admittedly quite touchy about what it actually does, or can, mean.

[–] pickin_grinnin 18 years ago

The unfortunate thing about the term "feminist" is that the term itself is sexist. A more gender-neutral term would be more appropriate.

As long as psychos like Andrea Dworkin continue to be considered in a positive light, it will be difficult for people to accept the term. This film is about as Dworkinite as you can get.

Sex-positive feminists - most of whom I like - need to find a better term to describe their beliefs. The taint on the word "feminism" is unlikely to go away.

[–] cinesimon 13 years ago

It's sad how so many people find it hard to grasp basic terminology.
'Feminist' as a word is nowhere near sexist - and the only people who find the word negative are those who want to.
I'd not recommend anyone change one iota of their lives simply because a bunch of brainless know-nothings slather over Rush Limbaugh's hate-laden cultural smears.

[–] ThrownMuse 18 years ago

>>I beg of you, PLEASE don't confuse hatred for men with feminism!!<<

At the end of the film it is shown that the two women tortured women in addition to men. Did you watch the film all the way through?

Just keep telling yourself...its only a poodle...it's only a poodle!

[–] manuelcorbelli 17 years ago

feminism is just a variant of the humanist struggle for equality among human beings, that's all.
It's ridicolous not to accept that women have suffered through history just for being women. It's an evidence that in most cultures men have inflicted inhuman treatment to women all along history.
Feminism is just an answer to thousand years old mysoginy.
When it comes to Andrea Dworkin, i don't agree with her on many things but if people would read her books instead of just accepting her fame as "feminist monster" will discover that, despite a too "passionate, quite apocalyptical way of saying/seeing things and a controversial point of view on pornography, she was not a "man-hater" (she lived with a man, by the way) and she was not a female-suprematist either.
It's funny to see how people feel like lynching her more than focusing on male-chauvinism and all form of sexism.

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[–] tali1 11 years ago

Feminist ? mmm - not sure.What i am sure of is that it is a steaming pile of dung.

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[–] funeralis 11 years ago

It's one of the rare films where women are actually in the active and dominant role men usually get. This kind of torture is what we see in countless other movies, just that this time it is reversed - a woman in the position of power and control. This seems so horrific and cruel to you only because you are used to see women portrayed as weak, stupid, objectified, tortured and this torture eroticized.