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WISH THEY COULD HAVE

posted 19 years ago by d_fife
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I WISH THEY COULD HAVE HAD THE TROOPRES DISCOVER GRimlord was ZIKTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEy almost did in Grimlord's dark secret, but had to leave as the portal was closing and Ryan's friends were in DANGER.

WHat I mean is I wish they had a real final episode: In the last episode, the troopers would somehow discover that Grimlord is Ziktor, and THEY WOULD STORM INTO Ziktor's office and confront him and say that they are going to have him put away. ZIKTor would mock them about it, and escape. In the end they would have Grimlord's whole army defeated and Grimlord Destoryed or turned into Ziktor with NO WAY OF TURNING BACK INTO GRIMLORD, and Ziktor would be exposed to the city of what he was and locked away.

In the last ep, Galeo's memory, the Troopers had Grimlord's chamber go in flames.

[–] lferrigon-1 18 years ago

Yes, that would have been a great way to end the series for the Troopers to discover Grimlord's human face and destroying him.

[–] d_fife 18 years ago

I AM GETTING MORE AND MORE AGITATED THAT THEY DID NOT HAVEA FINALE OF THE SERIEs. I AM SO (I CANNOT SAY THE WORD BECAUSE OF SWEARING) ANGERED ANNGERED TICKED AND PEEVED.

I RECENTLY HAD A DREAM OF THE FINAL BATTLE WITH GRIMLORD AND IN THE BATTLE GRIMLORD HAVING ELECTRICTY GOING AROUND HIM TWICE!!!!!! I Bet if they had a final episode grimlord would have a final plan of once and for all conquering reality and buildings blowing up maybe! I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SEEN THE VR TROOPERS IN THE FINALE DISCOVER ZIKTOR IS GRIMLRD AND THEIR REACTION, since ziktor was a ruthless businessman and they tried to thwart a few of his projects (I am surprised they nevr had an episode of just ziktor and not turning into grimlord, THE SHOW HAD POTENTIAL!!!!!) AND WHEN THE VR TROOPERS WOULD DISCOVER Ziktor/grimlord's identity, I bet they would storm in his office and ryan would raise his voice and yell something to ziktor and ziktor woudl mock them and also before panic and scream that they know his identity. IF they found out his identity, that would be it for him.

[–] tdawgsnc 18 years ago

it would have been nice for them to have a real finale...but it would have been better if they could have continued the series...but unfortunately they ran out of footage of the Metal Hero shows in Japan they used....and had to end the show...same with Beetleborgs, and Masked Rider...

WT

[–] Nike316 18 years ago

I definately agree that it would've been cool to see this show end with a better episode.

[–] d_fife 18 years ago

I agree. but the last episode only had the dark fortress go to flames.

I AM STILL UPSET THAT THE TROOPERS NEVER DISCOVERED GRIMLORD IS ZIKTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF I ever watch any of my recordings of the show, it would pain me to watch because they never never never discovered he was ziktor. that makes me happy Saban went out, because of that. I bet they would not be surprised that Ziktor is grimlord as ziktor has had ruthless projects like bulldozing the forest for some facilty or other and fighting him for it. I JUST WISH THEY HAD THAT (THE TROOPERS DISCOVERING HIS IDENTITY, but then grimlord would be screwed and more vulnerable). I WONDER HOW CROSS WORLD CITY WOULD FEEL!!

[–] You_only_live_twice 17 years ago

Masked Rider didn't run out of footage, it was cancelled because of low ratings and frankly remember this is just my opinum, Masked Rider sucked, it was horrible, have you ever watched Kamen Rider or just one of its spin offs, its a great show. The Masked rider was the worst rip off ever.

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

last night I had a dream about the troopers discovering grimlord's identity. I had a dream of ziktor seeing the troopers in human form going through his hallways and realizes he has to move fast (they had to see him about something as in reguards to his projects) and he says his forces of darkness empower me take me back to my virtual reality as the troopers are coming closer to his office as his transformation into grimlord continues. and he has just vanished to virtual reality as the troopers go in his office. And they wonder where ziktor went. and look through a security camera and it shows grimlord and ziktor and not the transformation and they wonder why both are in the same place. In the dream I was the spy who told the troopers that ziktor and grimlord are the same person as they look through the camera. And the troopers not being surprised because of all of his ruthless projects like treaing down the forest or something like that. And ziktor then had to relocate.

I was upset to find out it was a dream. I still hate how we were cheated out of the troopers discovering his identity. I never felt that way back when the show aired, but last year it started to grow on me and more and more and I hate how there is nothing we can do now about us getting cheated out of the troopesr and all of cross world city discovering his identity as the series is long gone. I wish I could film that episode my self with the actors and broadcast it and the rest of the series. WE were jiffed out of what would have been the best moment of the show. they almost discovered his identity in grimlord's dark secret (23 episodes after quest for power) and if they discoverd his identity that would be a turning point in the series (it would be more major than spider-man halfway through the series discovering wilson fisk is the kingpin) and grimlord would be more vulnuerable. I hate how www.tv.com says for the first episode, throughout the entire series the troopers are never aware that grimlord and ziktor are the same and how wikipedia points that out too. I w*onder how cross world city would react. WOuld anyone in the show be surprised that ziktor is grimlord, due to his ruthless projects like tearing down the forest, park, pollution etc. but then tyler and this professor went to another country to find away to destroy grimlord's reality and would the troopers have known his identity anyway when that would happen. they last had the dark fortress go in flames in the last ep.

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

I had another dream about this ziktor and grimlord thing of the troopers finding out and smashing his crystal that turns him into grimlord (or maybe in the dream it was me).

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

every so often I have dreams of the Troopers discovering Ziktor is Grimlord and can you of you guess how the Troopers would have reacted if they discovered it?

[–] Nike316 17 years ago

They would definately be shocked and angry and they would probably try to put him in jail for life.

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

I bet they would try to put him in jail for life too!!!!! probably for treason.

Something tells me they would not be surprised as Ziktor is ruthless and has tried to eliminate things in the city for his business.

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

had a dream of this last night, someone confronted Zikor and Called him Ziktor and said or Should I say Grimlord. How would Ziktor react to that if that happened in the show????????? what he want then?

[–] Nike316 17 years ago

He would probably sick the skugs on them or try to escape by turning into Grimlord and leaving.

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

ABout the double of KAitlin, How come she did not tell them Grimlord is Ziktor, the Double kaitlin in KAitlin Through the Looking Glass. I still wish the Troopers found out. And I wish it was known what would have happened if the troopers or anyone touched Grimlord's prism and said forces of darkness empower me take me back to my virtual reality.

[–] d_fife 17 years ago

I had another dream again of them finding out Ziktor and Grimlord are the same. I just wish that happened in the show (it almost did in one episode) 2 nights ago I had another dream of the Ziktor Grimlord identity thing. I hate how nothing of this ever came.

[–] d_fife 16 years ago

I HAD ANOTHER DREAM OF THE TROOPERS FINDING OUT ZIKTOR IS GRIMLORD AND I FORGOT HOW THEY REACTED? I WONDER HOW THEY WOULD REACT. ITS A DARN SHAME THEY CHEATED US OUT OF THE TROOPERS AND CROSS WORLD CITY FINDING OUT THAT ZIKTOR IS GRIMLORD AND HoW THEY WOULD REACT! They came close to this in GRimlord's dark SEcret.

[–] Nike316 16 years ago

LOL i'm starting to think these are becoming nightmares since they're taunting you.

[–] d_fife 16 years ago

well I just wish they had the Vr troopers and Cross World City find out Ziktor / Grimlord are the same and see the outcome and they almost had this in Grimlord's dark secret and the series never finished. I have wished this for a while.

[–] Nike316 16 years ago

I hear ya. But you want to know what I find more annoying? The fact that hardly anybody remembers this show is what I find more annoying.

[–] d_fife 16 years ago

I had another dream about the show not being finished and no troopers finding out Grimlord's identity.

[–] Nike316 16 years ago

LOL, you don't say?

[–] d_fife 16 years ago

what are you trying to say with "you don't say"?

[–] Nike316 16 years ago

I was just messing around.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

I had a dream recently of some robot vowing to betray Grimlord and what would happen to that robot? General IVar actually kind of did that in the Great Brain Robbery!

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

That could've made an interesting episode.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

I had another dream of them discovering Ziktor is grimlord and how would the Troopers, PRofessor HEart, JEb, PErcy, Woody, teh citizens and the mayor react to it?

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

LOL, like I said, these are becoming nightmares for you.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

not really its just we got cheated out of an awesome ending of the show and how would everyone react if they found out Ziktor was Grimlord (Esp after Ziktor's ruthless projects and bullying the mayor)

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

Ok, then I guess I can say this has come back to haunt you. Don't worry, it bothers me too.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

I had another dream about it last night. still how would everyone react if they found out Ziktor was Grimlord after all his ruthless project like tearing the forest down etc.

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

LOL, you're starting to sound like Martin Luther King.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

I had another dream last night of the Ziktor and Grimlord identity revealed to everyone.

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

Perhaps coffee would work?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

It is painful for me to watch Vr troopres as they never got a chance to destroy Grimlord and discover Ziktor was Grimlord. I have hatred in the ep Grimlord's Dark Secret even.

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

Is this the only show you're bitter towards, as far as the ending goes?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

yes it is and I WISH THEY HAD THE ENDING I WANTED, the troopers defeating grimlord and discovering his IDENTITy, WE GOT CHEATED OUT OF THAT IN GRIMLORD'S DARK SECRET (Why did taht episode even air?, the episode now had no purpose!)

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

THIS IS MADNESS I TELL YA!!! LOL.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

within the last 2 weeks I had dreams of hte Troopers Discovering Grimlord / Ziktor bveing the same person. I AM TERRIBLE UPSET THAT THEM FINDING OUT GRIMLORD / ZIKTOR ARE THE SAME PERSON NEVER HAPPENED???????????!! WHY????????????????

and how come they never found out in Grimlord's Dark SEcret? What was the whole point in that 2 parter????????????????????? GRRRRRRR How would the troopers have reacted if they ffound out that Grimlord and Ziktor are the same person and what if the citizens too found out, how would they react?

In my dream the Troopers guessed Ziktor was Grimlord! how would Grimlord react if he found out the guessed / realized Ziktor and Grimlord were the same person.

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

LOL, you do realize this has been haunting you for almost 4 years now, right? Or has it been longer than just on the boards?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

longer than that OK! I am not happy with what you say is haunting me and how that never happened of the discovery of Grimlord's identity.

WHat was the point in the episode Grimlord's Dark Secret when they never found out Ziktor was Grimlord or would that be something they would have in a last episode and hwo would the Troopers react to it?

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

I understand how you feel. Would the show airing again for the first time in years, cheer you up a bit?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

maybe it would AS LONG AS THE HAVE THE SAME ACTORS LOOK THE SAME. I WISH THEY COMPLETED THE SHOW AND WOULD THEM DISCOVERING GRIMLORD'S SECRET IDENTITY BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE IN THE FINAL EPISODE?????

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

I mean't, if they showed reruns. Would that cheer you up a bit?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

last night I had a dream that they showed reruns of the series and they had the last 5 episodes! including the 2 or 3 part finale!! (And the last 5 eps picked up after where the last one left off) and they did discover Ziktor as Grimlord (and they were suspicious of Ziktor for something). THE DREAM SEEMED SOOO REALL and what would their response be of Ziktor if they found out he was Grimlord. I forgot BUT I REMEMBER TYLER STEEL RETURNING!

2 weeks ago I had a dream they discovered the Idientity and quickly destroyed the prism that makes Ziktor morph into Grimlord! Would they do that???

THE DREAM SEEMED SOOOO REALLL!!!

and also why did they have to close the show without ending it of A final battle, Ziktor / Grimlord's identity is discovered and Ryan and Grimlord have a final battle before Grimlord is destroyed, Tyler returning!

I remember Tyler left with a scientist to work on something that will destroy Grimlord, but why was that left!!!!!!!!!

why did they have to close the show?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

LOL, would hypnocil help you sleep better?

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

never mind that what did you think of the dream

and why did they have to close the show without a real ending?

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

I'd say the dream was interesting. The show ended because there was no more Japanese footage to use.

[–] d_fife 15 years ago

why couldnt they use american footage to have a 2 parter finale?

[–] Nike316 15 years ago

Well considering this show wasn't as popular as Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, it might not of had a chance. Don't quote me on that, it's just a guess.

[–] SillyGayBoy 8 years ago

I wish they did get american footage for a 2 part finale.

[–] megagreen-1 16 years ago

Okay, about the final episode did anybody actually SEE "Galieleo's New Memory"? Because I have every episode and that whole "Grimlord's chamber goes up in flames" thing never happens. Yes I know the official summary says it does but that episode guide says alot of things that didn't actually happen. Here's what REALLY happened: The Troopers invented a robot named Galileo to assist Professor Hart and Grimlord sends Doommaster and the Ultra-Skugs to steal him when they take him to Dr. Poindexter's lab (first appearance of Poindexter since the season 1 finale) seeking his aid in working the bugs out. Luckily, Poindexter installed a homing device which the Troopers were able to use to track him to Grimlord's dark fortress (that's what Grimlord's season 2 HQ was called which makes me wonder if that's where they got the name for Astronema's HQ on PR in Space). Ryan has to go fight a monster (iirc) while Kaitlin and JB go to the Dark Fortress (Grimlord, Doommaster and Despera are not there for whatever reason) and find Oraclon (Grimlord's computer aka the face on the wall) copying Galileo's data. The Troopers cause Oraclon to overload by giving Galileo an impossible command (they ask him to calculate the exact size of the universe). Oraclon is destroyed and the Troopers leave with Galileo. That's when Grimlord, Doommaster and Despera return to find the Troopers leaving and smoke coming up from where Oraclon used to be. Grimlord commands Despera to deploy the Grimstars (these were what Grimlord's flying attack vehicles were called in season 2) and Despera said they couldn't until Oraclon was reprogrammed at which point Grimlord commands her to reprogram him and repair the dark fortress (though as far as I could tell there wasn't that much to repair apart from Oraclon) and when that was done he would "unleash a power that will wipe the VR Troopers from reality once and for all" and then he lifts his hands skyward and starts zapping energy beams from them then Doommaster and Despera join in with their sword and wand respectively and add their energy beams to his. Not sure what that was about actually. But clearly they could not launch any attacks or (presumably) create any more monsters until Oraclon was reprogrammed. But if you followed the second season you'd know that this was just a minor setback as this wasn't the first time Oraclon was destroyed. In the episode "Into Oraclon's Web" he is destroyed in battle with Ryan Steele which if memory serves me was actually the final battle footage from Uchu Keiji Shaider (the 1984 Metal Heroes series from which the season 2 VR Ryan footage was adapted) as Oraclon was the main villain in that series. Anyway, in that particular episode after Ryan destroys Oraclon, Grimlord simply commands his minions to "rebuild Oraclon at once" and sure enough by the next episode he was back as if nothing had happened. Though I'm not sure if the fact that in "Into Oraclon's Web" Oraclon just needed to be "rebuilt" but in the final episode he had to be "reprogrammed" has any relevance like maybe the first time only his form was destroyed but he had been backed up or something but the second time he actually crashed and had to be reprogrammed from scratch. Something to think about. Hope this helps.

[–] Rodd_Munchright 15 years ago

When VR Troopers first came out I lived in a place that didn't get it so most of what I knew about the show came from videos, and books of the show, and one of my favorite things about the show was the Battle Grid so a lot of my dreams where about that.

Some of my dreams even had them be in battle grid mode outside of the actual battle grid not for the same reason they did in Dream Battle even though I think I had a dream like that sometimes it would be because Grimlord was trying to keep them from using their full powers so they had to use battle grid mode, other times it was because they had gotten a power up, and could use battle grid mode for fights in the real world.

Even after seeing all the episodes of VR Troopers I sometimes wish they did more with the Battle Grid concept like the things I just said or doing things like having Kaitlin, or JB go into the battle grid alone more times then they did, and having at least one episode where they actually win when they do, or having episodes where only two of them go into the battle grid or having it where if one or two of them go into the battle grid in an episode the rest of them will go in later in the episode.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

I had a dream last night of them Discovering Grimlord's identity and how come that never happend in the show, why why why why why why, and I had a dream of that last month. Why and how would they have reacted of discovering the truth and what would have happened after?

And what if percy accidentally destroyed Grimlord, what would happen then?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

Percy? LOL. No doubt, it would definitely be an accident if he defeated Grimlord.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

yes It would have bveen an accident if Percy Destroyed Grimlodr and what if he did what would happen and the result???

why didnt Grimlord get destroyed when they were told the only way to sever the link between his father and dark heart was to Destroy Grimlord, why didnt they destroy him?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

Well, I don't know about the result of the end of the show, but I know the result I would have towards the end of the show would be a bit dissapointing. I mean Percy of all people destroys Grimlord? That job should belong to the Troopers. I can't answer your last question because it's been a while since I watched an episode on youtube.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

oh, that would be disappointing??? it would be funny of PErcy Destroying Grimlord and how would the troopers be to him and how would Grimlord's warriors be of it?

And why didnt they destroy him in DArk Heart's secret oR EVER, WHY DIDNT THEY EVER DESTROY HIM IN THE SHOW OR DIDNT THEY CARE TO???

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

The Troopers would be proud and the warriors would be embarrassed. Of course they cared to destroy Grimlord, but it didn't happen in "Dark Hart's Secret" because it was supposed to be one of those close call episodes. You have to admit, it was definitely worth the watch.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

yes I guess it was one of close call episodes, and Grimlord's Dark Secret too was one of those close call episodes. Why didnt they ever in the series have them find Grimlord's human identity and destroy him, that would be fun to watch, he lived in the last scene in the final episode.

the Troopesr would be proud I guess if Percy destroyed Grimlord and if he did what woiuld the newspaper place have done and would it be in the papers. But would the warriors care if Grimlord got destroyed

There also was one Episode IVAR staged mutiny against Grimlord and Ivar was defeated, and guess how Grimlord revived him. Why did Ivar want to have mutiny against Grimlord?

when this woman was evicted by one of Ziktor's apartments, why did she have memory loss and why did Ziktor want her silenced?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

the Troopesr would be proud I guess if Percy destroyed Grimlord and if he did what woiuld the newspaper place have done and would it be in the papers. But would the warriors care if Grimlord got destroyed

Percy's career probably would've taken off. As for the warriors, I think they would care because they'd be directionless. I can't answer your other questions because I haven't been watching the episodes for the show.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

why did they have Galeo's new memory the last episode. What if they asked Galeo what is the human identity of Grimlord? they should have done that and how would JB and Kaitlin have reacted then if GAleo told them?
and true they would be directionless without Grimlord, what would they do then?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

I've got catching up to do so I can only answer one thing. I imagine that the warriors would try an all out attack and end up retreating or losing.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

still why didnt they have a real finale? and the finale episode was there even any sense in finality?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

Well yeah, I mean, Grimlord's dungeon went up in flames.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

was Grimlord's dungeon going in flames a sense of finality?????? I mean thats not enough and what would have happened after that if they continued the series, if they had a 3rd season what would have happened?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

I think it was a sense of finality. There was no more Japanese footage to be used so they rapped the show up. Had the show went on for another season, maybe Grimlord's dungeon wouldn't have went up in flames.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

how could grimlord's chamber going in flames be a sense of finality and speculate what would have happened season 3??? I wish they had season 3

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

I just answered the questions that you asked me. I said, if there was a season three, then maybe the show wouldn't have been rapped up the way it was.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

would the show have gone another direction in SEason 3, its hard to think of what would happen.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

I still wonder what would have happened if they continued the series after Galeo's new memory and what if they had a 3rd season what woulld have happened to it?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

This has been going on for almost five years in the making lol. For all we know, the makers probably forgot about this show by now. I don't know if you can even call it a flash in the pan.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

Ok give me your guess what would have happened after GAleo's new memory. I hate uncompleted series with a cliffanger and they would have had season 3, what would have happened in that? Ryan Steele's actor said taht they were going to have Grimlord destroyed in Season 3, but that never happened. How would Grimlord have been destroyed and what would have happened with that and when in the season would it have happened? and I would have loved to see Grimlord die after how mean he was and how would Ryan have reacted if Grimlord got destroyed?

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

no response to this sooo far

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

What would your prediction be?

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

I dunno I would love to hear yours

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

I think you already asked those questions.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

its just sooo hard to think of what direction the series would have gone if they had a third season. Would they have had Grimlord? And if he was destroyed properly, would they have revealed his human identity and how would the Troopers have reacted to that?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

All of those question would've most likely led to the expected turn which would end on a shocking yet satisfying note for the Troopers.

[–] d_fife 14 years ago

they should have had a real ending and should have had season 3, would season 3 have had new villians, new what would it have had?

[–] Nike316 14 years ago

LOL. I think you asked these questions.

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