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The most disturbing / tragic episode of your choice


Having watched the entire series on TV and DVD, I was wondering what do the other Frost fans consider to be the most disturbing or tragic episode.


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My own selection would be episode 4 from series 5, ‘Love me tender’. In this episode Frost deals with a grandfather who turns out to be sexually abusing his granddaughters and has killed his own son fearing the truth will be revealed. Another parallel story is that of a dear old woman who killed her husband as a manslaughter due to years of psychological abuse and personal tragedy. In the same episode Frost’s sidekick of several times, Clive Barnard, dies by getting the bullet intended for Frost. The episode is extremely well written, as the plot keeps getting fresh twists and for a moment (which seems like a lifetime) we don’t know who is dead – Frost or Barnard. The final scenes – Frost handing over his resignation and crying above Barnard’s coffin are deeply moving and show yet again what a fine actor David Jason is.

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In this respect, what do other Frost fans say – which episode did they find most disturbing and why?

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Thats the same episode I was going to choose aswell. Its very sad when Barnard dies. It was awfull aswell when that copper went into the police party and Mullet and George and few others looked and you could tell that they thought something had happend to Jack.

The other episode I found disturbing is the one where Jack lost he promotion because he punched that Peadophile. That Peadophile had it coming and im glad Jack didn't do that deal with him about that guy dropping the charges against Jack if he agreed to his terms. I felt sorry for Jack. Im glad he punched hat guy though. You could tell Mullet felt for Jack aswell.



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I found the second episode "Not with Kindness" an all round tragic and depressing episode.

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Strange thing about the death of Barnard, we just watched the very first episode of season 1 and we see Barnard for the first time. The story is the one with the old guy who years earlier tried to rob his own bank. He's arguing with Frost inside the house and then it shows Barnard outside waiting and we hear gunfire. Barnard rushes inside to find Frost laying unconscious on the floor. The old man had knocked him out, gone upstairs Too shoot himself and his wife.
Later when Frost hears what Barnard did with rushing in after hearing gunfire, Frost says that he could have gotten himself shot doing that. And that's exactly how Barnard dies later.

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I agree musical, that was definitly the most tragic and most disturbing episode.

I think all the actors ( male and female) involved did very well in what were surely some very challanging roles and storylines.

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I don't remember the title, must have been season 7 or 8 when Frost gets suspended from duty because he hits a paedophile murderer. It's the heplessness that Frost experiences in dealing with released criminals who are still a danger.

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I'd say the first ever episode is a very powerful tale.

****SPOILERS HENCEFORTH****

During this episode, there is the onoing subplot of Jack caring for his terminally-ill wife, a situation which is obviously affecting him a great deal. A little girl goes missing and is found dead. To top it all off, a skeleton is uncovered with one of its arms hacked off and a bullet hole in its skull. As Jack investigates he unmasks the killer, who has also brutally murdered again and who up until then seemed like the most harmless person anyone could meet. The flashback to the original crime shows a cold, callous and calculating killer. Once his cover is blown, he pulls out the same gun he used to kill the two other men and goes up to his own teminally-ill wife's bed and proceeds to kill her and then himself. The person who is responsible for the little girl's death owns a large number of cats which he/she subsequently kills because they claim there would be no one else to look after them once they are sent down.

And then, of course, there's the deeply moving speech that Jack gives after his wife's death outlining the situation between them in the run up to them dicovering her illness and how they subsequently dealt with it. It's also in this speech that Jack recounts the incident which won him his George Cross and it is really saddening when you realize that he approachedthe gunman fully expecting and even hoping that the madman would kill him.

****SPOILERS END****

I honestly don't believe I've ever seen a greater beginning to a successful and well-loved series as this.

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You are right, that scene where Jack has his monologue to Shirley is simply superb. Shows what a wonderful actor David Jason is.

Speaking of Shirley, out of all the women Jack has been with during the years, she is my favorite one.

It would be great if in the series finale the two of them would end up back together again.

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Love Me Tender, in which Barnard is killed and Held In Trust which deals with the Paedophile case- both are extremley powerful episodes (I think Love Me Tender just edges out Held In Trust) and are two of the best of the entire series.

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Love Me Tender
For disturbingness though, I'd Say Penny For The Guy, Stranger In The House, Widows and Orphans
All of those were to me deeply deeply disturbing

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widows and orphans would be one of them due to the fact that you kind of understand how the killer became the way he did it reminded me of red dragon with the grandson and grandmother relationsionship

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I've not sat through all of it yet, but I agree that the first episode is the most emotional for me. Not just Frost confessing his feelings over his wife's death, but also the bank managers suicide.

Even though he was a murderer, it's still sad watching a frail old man tell how he was completely ruined by circumstance. He lost his son, his wife lost her mind, and his only hope of salvation was ruined because he forgot a set of keys. It's so well acted, especially the sadness as he tells how he did it all out of love for his wife. The tragic outcome is such a somber moment.

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I agree with you completely. The old man obviously was willing to do anything in order to help his wife whom he loved dearly. I also noticed that Jack had a look on his face that could have been envy because he hadn't felt that way about his own wife while she was dying. Or...he could have been feeling grateful that he didn't go through the pain and agony over his wife that the old man did. Just a minor observation.

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The end of the pilot episode, "Care and Protection", has always been the most depressing for me - Frost returning to his empty house after being up all night and nearly getting shot (again), alone at home for probably the first time since his wife passed the day before. He collapses on the sofa in exhaustion and then checks his pockets to find the note reminding him to have the washing machine fixed; he throws his head back in despair and the shot fades out to the end credits, only part-way through which that powerful original theme starts.

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All very good choices ahead of my comment. The episode where Barnard was killed shocked me because he seemed to be a good enough character to continue a successful story arc. The most disturbing was the final episode "If Dogs Run Free" because not only is Toolan lost (and Frost in the alternate ending), but the decline of Sean Berland due mostly to his father's deplorable influence. A eerily shocking moment is when Christine Moorhead's ex-husband Allen orders a whiskey after his meeting with Frost. You knew something bad would be tied to it.

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Series 6 episode 2

One man's meat

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