pedophilia in Europe


Is pedophilia not thought to be a serious crime in Europe? Films and books may not portray the subject accurately but based upon what I've seen/read it would seem as if Europeans don't think much of it. Almost likes it's a normal thing. From the top of my head:

For a Lost Soldier - I was shocked to see that sexual intercourse between a 12 year old and an adult would be portrayed as natural, romantic and loving

Malena - A man takes his young son to a brothel

The Elementary Particles by Michel Houellebecq - A 45 year old woman has regular sexual encounters with boys as young as 13

Roman Polanski - Drugs, rapes and sodomizes a teenage girl and the French government thinks nothing of it

Just curious what others may think on the subject.

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Looking For a Handout;

Your information on this subject is sketchy, but true.

Pedophilia was not illegal, until American lawyers discovered

there was a fortune to be made. Close behind them were the moralists

and hypocrits who then spread their paranoia to other subject

nations. Good Films on the subject, which are not blantantly

pornographic are limited to about one hundred. Most come from

Denmark and Norway. "The Hide-a-way, You are not alone, and

"Christian's First Love" come to mine.

Further information can be had on this subject in any library

which has not condemed the books to the fires of fear. Some of the

most formost authorities have had recent works revived so that

readers can compare the European practices with American thoughts

and customs beginning with early Americanna.

The internet information is vague but can steer you towards further

enlightment on the subject.

Good Luck



"If you make the world your enemy, you'll never run out of reasons to be miserable" LC

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You are not alone, is not really about Pedophilia becasue the two boys were around the same age.



dewey dewey dewey

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its a bloody good film too, one of my favourites.

living in Europe, I would say it is not accepted, but European films get away with more than American ones because censorship isn't as strict, and you wouldn't have an uprising on your hands if you release a film about gays.

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i saw this one too when i was your age it is also a good one. I have a question about Europe films don't the also get away more with underage nudity like in "you are not alone" because nudity it self is more accepted, and not seen as sexual, like in america. That mot people there just don't care if they are seen naked, like on the beach or in the locker rooms or what ever.

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I would say that, yes.

Not so much in th UK (where I live), but in mainland Europe (France, Germany, Spain, etc) nudity is seen as much less sexual than in America, and because of this there is more likely to be more underage nudity in films, again, nothing sexual.

I would say that censorship in general is much less strict in Europe than in America, with films rated R in America (or 18 in the UK) being only rated as 12+ or similar, and it is much easier to get away with films that challenge socially accepted views, or have sensitive themes (such as homosexuality and paedophilia).

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Europe has a different relation and approach to the subject, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't recognized there. After all, maybe the strongest wave of actions against pedophilia in the world started after a monstrous crime that happened in Belgium more than a decade ago.

But, unlike USA, Europeans: 1) are not paranoid (Americans are paranoid about everything, and this subject is on the top of the list); 2) don't avoid open analyzes of different, including controversial themas from different angles; 3) know the difference between art and reality; 4) know that nudity isn't equal to sex.

Also, this word is often misused. For instance, what is pedophilic when father takes his son in brothel? He isn't going to have sex with him, is he?

Unfortunately, recently European directors rarely make brave movies about the subject; and nudity, no matter how innocent, has almost vanished. The main reason is that most directors hope for the success on American market, and movies like those that European authors have been making for decades could never pass US censors. Also, as Europe is more and more becoming American colony, they might be afraid that their works might be put on fire (as Americans treat art that they don't like) and maybe they could be put on the top of it.

In real life, however, Europeans know how to distinguish certain things, so nudist beaches are spread almost all over the continent, with whole families (often 3 generations) visiting them, also topless of all ages is allowed and common on almost all public beaches. But people are very sensitive when real child abuse case appears, law is strict about it, people report suspected molestations etc.

Therefore, don't make conclusions about nations or whole continents based on movies. If we do the same, we would conclude that American teenagers never practice sex, mostly because they due to the number of murders in homes, streets or schools don't live long enough to get a chance.

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Very good post, especially your last para.

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age of consent 14 in canada? its 12 in mexico for girls not gays though

seems too low
i guess lots of teachers are locked up in usa for sex

age is 13 in spain i think

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People take life too seriously.

See Cote d'Azur for a little comedy on the subject.

Harry Dixon, Jr.

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To aid in this discussion, here are Age of Consent Around the World -

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world

Belgium is currently 16
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/belgium

Netherlands is currently 16
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/netherlands

Germany is 14
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/germany

Norway is 16
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/norway

While Close-In-Age Laws are commonly mentioned, that is if the legal age is 16, but a 16yr and a 15yr have sex, circumstances can be weighed to determine if a crime has been committed.

Other places, though I don't know if there is a name for this, have Distance-In-Age Laws. That is, despite being of legal age, if the age difference between the individuals is too great, then that is perhaps an infraction.

Keeping in mind this is 1945, and at a time near the end of the War. Soldier probably did similar things to Girls, though perhaps not as young as this boy.

In some states like mine, the Criminal Sexual Conduct Statues add more confusion than clarification. Though I am speaking from memory, the absolute age is 13. In this case, someone 13 and 14 can have sex, but someone 14 and 15 can not. Someone 15 and 16 can, but someone 16 and 17 can't. Again, from memory. Once you are 18 and above you are on your own, but I think there is an age differential rider on this. If some is 18 and the other person is 40, that could be a violation of something. Again, purely from memory. It's complicated and I'm probably not explaining it quite right, but there are age differentials written into the law.

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I feel Europe while old fashioned and old world in many ways is much more progressive in thought and values then the US. They seem more acceptable to the various differences in human behavior. The United States is one of the most backward countries in many values. Conservative religious values affect our often sexually oppressive laws more then most countries. Not surprising that much of our conservative culture and laws are inherited from the British. Americans allow too much White Christian values to control their laws and behavior. Why are abortion laws so controversial? Why do we allow religious values to affect our voting on laws on issues like gay marriage? Narrow minded zealots who hate anyone different (Rev Phelps) scream that God is against murdering children and that marriage is for Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. What do I care what God says when it comes to laws in the country. God can not hold office in this country. I take great offense when narrow minded idiots tell me what God wants. Your God not mine. My God keeps his mouth shut. Traditional Christian marriage supporters push for man and woman only marriage. California voted last year to legally establish prejudice and deny rights to those who would desire same sex marriage. They scream that votes don't count. Judges should overturn laws that establish prejudice and deny certain groups equal rights. Majority prejudice should not rule. Remember in our history we kept a race in bondage, legally. Votes were made and Laws were passed to establish racism and prejudice in the form of segregation. If the old Jim Crow laws needed majority sanction to exist then the majority was wrong. California majority can not pass laws to force certain groups of people to have less rights. If the US voted and the White majority passed laws establishing less rights for Blacks the minority would that be right? Majority rules. Well that was the case until Brown vs the Board of Education. The majority can not be allowed to pass laws of prejudice and oppression on a minority. As California did on the Gay marriage issue. It seems to be human nature for the majority to want to control things for their benefit at the cost of the minority. Why would your God care if a man wanted to marry another man. I don't plan on marrying a man but why should I care what someone else does. Why should you? Narrow Minded Christians should leave God in church on Sundays and not use him to promote hatred and ignorance. Majority rules should not be the case when the issue should be equality rules.

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It's called demoralization. It's a left wing tool used to destroy and dominate a country. When the Soviets invaded Eastern and Western Europe toward the end of WWII, they brutally raped every woman and child in sight. It was considered completely acceptable by the left. They wanted it to happen. General Patton tried to stop it...but he was removed from his command. Rape and child rape are part of the left's agenda. We are seeing it now with mass immigration / migration. Third worlders "migrate" to first world countries and immediately begin to rape young women and children (and sometimes older women). If you say anything, left wing elites scream "racism" or something similar. Anyone who refuse to submit could be arrested, lose their job, pension, etc. The left wants child rape to happen. It's deliberate. This type of movie is pushing, "kids like being raped.".

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