Religious Overtones?


Would you say this film had a great amount of religious overtones or a small amount?

I found the conversations about God quite interesting.

Loved the movie and Anthony Hopkins is superb as usual. I cried my eyes out.


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I think it definitely looks at Lewis's Christian faith in the context of dealing with suffering. But it seems by the end of the film, that he had come to a firm conclusion about it all. I'd say as a rule, it plays down Lewis's Christianity though.

Completely agree - fantastic film, possibly my favourite.

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without a doubt the christianity was softened. Though the film let you know he had strong faith it hardly showed him as the immense theological giant that he was. Lewis would surely have had far more detailed conversations about suffering and God- he would also have shared his faith more openly and been more troubled about marrying a divorcee (especially considering the culture he lived in) but that would not make good cinema!!

Lovely film though

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Yeah, I agree. It did downplay Lewis' faith, but that was to be expected in a mainstream movie. Overall, I found the tone to be pretty realistic -- these people feel like real characters, and the story has that odd ring of truth and real life to it. The conversations about God were very interesting, but they were really a tiny glimpse and a small summary of Lewis' powerful thoughts on the nature of spiritual reality and God's love for us.
It's all based on his book, A Grief Observed, which I haven't read myself but have heard is more in-depth about Lewis' faith and the test he went through. It's interesting -- all his vast theological knowledge stands, and is proved true, but in the end, when *he* himself underwent the suffering and pain, it seems he only barely stays on track. I guess it's easier to say these things -- "pain is the tool God uses to chisel us and make us perfect" -- out of head knowledge, but what of heart knowledge? I hear in the book it's even clearer that following the whole experience of suffering and losing his wife, his faith is shaken to the core, and he forced to rediscover his faith in a new way. He comes out of the experience a changed man, and pain was indeed the tool God used to make him stronger. The film doesn't make it fully clear that he comes through the trial and finds peace, and re-affirms his faith in a new way.

After all, it's very easy to realise something in principle and write or give talks about it, but to apply the teaching to your own life when the dark times come is harder to do. Lewis is honest about that, and that's a trait I really admire.

Fascinating movie though, and the performances were perfect. Hopkins was a good choice. Loved the screenplay too, very witty.

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Thank you so much for you indepth reply. I know first hand how your faith is tested when you lose people you love. I know of many people who have turned from God because of it. I think I got the same message you wrote so well in your reply.

It has definitely tempted me to buy the book because I think I will get much more from it.

It was a beautiful film, but one of the saddest I've ever watched.


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It does and must have religious overtones because C.S. Lewis was one of the most influential christians of the past century.

It is slightly downplayed, but anyone who knows anything at all about C.S. Lewis knows he was a christian anyway.

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You know Tolkien and Lewis studied together. Tolkien actually initiated Lewis into the world of religion. Interesting no?

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I think it is very interesting since, to me, they have two (in my opinion) entirely different personalities.


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That's true that they were very different in personality... in fact, Tolkien didn't care much at all for Jack's Narnia books, and even recommended he not publish The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe!

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Tolkien actually initiated Lewis into the world of religion

Actually Lewis was brought up a Christian.

He rebelled and went atheist for a goodly chunk of his adult life; but through his close friendship with Tolkien, the latter eventually wore him down and re-converted him.

Much to Tolkien's disgust, Lewis reassumed the Protestant faith of his childhood, instead of opting to become a good Catholic like him. ;) Made sniffy remarks similar to "well, what else can you expect from a bloody Ulsterman... :::grumble::: :::eyeball roll:::"

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Fascinating movie though, and the performances were perfect. Hopkins was a good choice. Loved the screenplay too, very witty.
I thought Hopkins was good and believable, but not so much as Lewis. Hopkins had a little too 'light' voice, was a little to small and was a little bit to intovert.

The real Lewis had a deep booming voice, was a little round and was jolly and extrovert.

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You might want to read other books by Lewis who was the supreme agnostic until one day he was converted to Christianity. You can read about it in his books Mere Christianity, and his spiritual biography entitled Surprised by Joy. A brilliant man and one of the 20th century's aclaimed Christian apologists.

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Thank you so much. I enjoyed his lectures in the movie so much that I think I will pick up those two books.


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Yeah--I like Russell Crowe, too. Extraordinary presence on-screen, like Anthony Hopkins. I hope you enjoyed A Grief Observed. It rounds out the film, I think; but I said all that in my contribution to the string about Debra Winger in this film.

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I believe Debra Winger to be one of the most underrated actresses of our time. Not only does she show her talent in "Shadowlands", but I was mesmerized by her in the last half of "Terms of Endearment".


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Right--no doubt about it. Underrated, and mesmerizing. But I was really just referring to your by-line--"Terrified...mortified...." It brought a smile of remembrance to my lips.

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Mere Christianity appears to be the most quoted and recommended book by other Christian Apologists. And I'd definately recomend his book The Great Divorce.

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"The 4 Loves" and "The Problem of Pain" by Lewis were themes in this movie and quoted. I'd recommend both of them.


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A lot of you are saying that Lewis was much more Christian than what was portrayed, which is probably true.

I liked the way religion was handled in this film. I remember a long time ago I was reading the novelization of this film (NOT the original play -- I repeat NOT the original play), and I remember being turned off by it partly because the novel seemed to be a little "preachy." (And also because the writing was juvenile, the prose clunky, the characerizations bland... just -- don't read it, please. Ever. It was a terrible companion to such an excellent film.) Anyway, there's a difference between writing about someone who is devout and preaching through the book, and I felt that the novel overstepped that boundary. (Hrm... don't really know how to explain this. Well, it wasn't marketed as a religious book, but it felt like reading a religious book, know what I mean?)

But I think the was religion was presented in this film was very well done. It showed the strong faith of CS Lewis and showed us his point of view without urging the viewer to also be of that faith. And in the end, we're left with messages that I think are universal: for instance, have the courage to love despite the pain, etc. So I wouldn't say that this film had overarching religious overtones, but was ABOUT a religious person. I'm not religious, and I also found the conversations about God quite interesting.

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So I wouldn't say that this film had overarching religious overtones, but was ABOUT a religious person.


I agree. Christians, however, who watched the film may have picked up on more of the soundbites regarding his faith, like when Joy was dying, and Lewis says, "When it gets close, you find out if you believe it or not." And she tells him, "You said real life hasn't begun yet; Jack, you better be right." Did you catch those? I actually didn't get them until I'd seen the movie about 5 times, prolly because I was on a crying jag through most of it.

I'm not religious, and I also found the conversations about God quite interesting.


I'm a Christian and a devotee of C.S. Lewis. I was curious about why you chose to read the novel based on this film? And what was it about the conversations about God that you found interesting?

Also, have you read any of C.S. Lewis' books?

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