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posted 18 years ago by junmengo
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i know that will be a stupid question, but rudy hasn't any chance of play in the NFL? at least as a safety?

[–] gebegb 18 years ago

No. -- Safety is a defensive back position. It is a speed position.

Rudy was too under-qualified to play at the NCAA Division I-A level, never mind to play at the level of the NFL. To be drafted by the NFL, you must be at the elite level of I-A, not merely competent. And Rudy was even short of competent for major university football. Maybe Division I-AA or Division II, for college, but never anything higher, for Rudy.

One source gives specifications for Rudy at:
"5 feet, 6 inches and 165 pounds."

"Five foot six" is way too short. You cannot give away 6 inches to a receiver and expect to compete.

"One hundred sixty-five pounds" is way too light. You cannot give away 40 pounds to a running back and expect to tackle the running back.

So a defensive secondary position has no place for someone of that height and weight.

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[–] junmengo 18 years ago

but the secondary guys aren't usually smallest guys who wasnt so good as receivers and go to the defense? i mean the safety isnt nromally a small strong guy like a little bull, thats why i thinked of rudy to this position

[–] Tommyb83 18 years ago

Clearly he could be a running back - if he dances well enough. You need small runners sometimes, as holes are small

[–] jwstaube 18 years ago

No, he couldn't be a running back. Barry Sanders was a "small" running back, and he was 5' 8", 200 pounds. Rudy would get a broken bone every hit he took.
And in response to another post, the secondary guys ARE the smallest (the cornerbacks, anyways), but that doesn't mean they are 165 pounds. Receivers/cornerbacks are still around 200 pounds.

[–] Anadrol 16 years ago

I'd say the jury is still out on this. Rudy is old, and has always been small, but you may have forgotten to measure one thing.....his heart.

[–] itsthewoo 16 years ago

Heart cannot make up for a dire lack of athletic ability.

It sure makes for a hell of a character though.

[–] Anadrol 16 years ago

I hate to break it to you cynics, but Rudy is about the exact same height and weight of a current NFL player you may have heard of...Bob Sanders.

All Bob has done is earn 2 trips to the Pro Bowl, 1 NFL Defensive Player of the Year award, and 1 Lombardi Trophy. And I would imagine at the meager height of 5'4", a lot of people said Bob was too small for the NFL. Apparently, they had measured his height, but had forgotten to measure one very important thing................his heart.

[–] rockerboy2001 16 years ago

^^^ BULLCRAP
From Espn.com
Full Name: Demond(bob) Sanders
Born: February 24, 1981
Erie, PA
Height: 5-8
Weight: 206 lbs.

Here if you don't beleive me
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5569

[–] RTwill22 16 years ago

I cannot believe there are people in this thread stupid enough to think Rudy could have played in the NFL. The person who originally responded to the OP said it perfectly clear. I will take it even a step further. Rudy was not good enough to play defensive back to Notre Dame. The defensive line coach kept him out of pity, and because he appreciated his hard work. Talent had nothing to do with him being on the team. One more point, there were defensive back STARTERS on that team that may not have been good enough to play in the NFL. What Rudy did was nothing short of a miracle. Even suggesting he could have played in the NFL is idiotic.

[–] Anadrol 16 years ago

All his life, people told him what he CAN'T do, and I'd say he did a pretty solid job of proving them wrong thus far. Say what you will about his chances of making it to the NFL - he'll probably thank you for the doubts at this point. He seems to thrive on doubters.

Sure, he's old and small, but I think you may be forgetting one important little stat......his heart.

[–] Anadrol 16 years ago

Bob Sanders is the best defensive player in the NFL right now. Some would say that he's the best PLAYER in the NFL, period. And he's only 5'2" - 185 lbs. So next time you want to tell a small guy that he can't achieve his goals, you may want to look past his 40 time, height, weight, and bench - and possible focus on something else as a measure of fortitude: His Heart.

[–] RTwill22 16 years ago

I am all for people succeeding using heart as a main factor. However, to play in the NFL, you have to have TALENT. Bob Sanders is oozing talent. Rudy had little to none. Like I said, players on his team that started would not be good enough to play in the NFL, so Rudy himself would never get a look.

[–] ratsrule223160 16 years ago

I normally don't respond to idiots but...

Didn't you just say that he was 5'4" and now you're saying he's 5'2". It's obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Do some research moron, he's 5'8" as someone already said...

http://www.nfl.com/players/bobsanders/profile?id=SAN287153

[–] durg1 15 years ago

Pssssh, Rudy could've made it to the NFL. Bob Sanders is 4 feet 5 inches and weighs a mere 85 lbs!!

[–] ChefC 15 years ago

I heard he was 3 foot dead on, and weighs a whopping 50 lbs.

What his ESPN stats don't show you though is the fact he has an abnormally large heart!

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[–] lylesanford 15 years ago

No NFL team would draft a player with college stats of 1 play and 1 sack.

[–] Anadrol 13 years ago

The jury is still out. Look at a guy i know by the name of Brian Urlacher. People said he was too small and slow to play backer in the NFL but they forgot about another measurement: his heart.

How about Bernie Sanders? Best RB of all time and stood a mere 5'3" on his tallest day. Too quick, too crafty, too much heart.

[–] jefgg 12 years ago

I wonder if Rudy ever received any offers to coach football. That was probably a more realistic goal than pro football.

The NFL is not the only professional football league. But I doubt Rudy could have cut it in other pro leagues. There is also the Canadian Football League. There was the World Football League but that folded midway through the 1975 season.

Rudy could have tried his luck at semi-pro football. I don't know why they call it semi-pro. Amateur is a more accurate description for most of those leagues. Rudy could have contributed on special teams.

There were no indoor teams in the '70s. I used to see the defunct New Jersey Revolution play indoor football games in Morristown, NJ. They had a player who reminded me of Rudy. He was short and not very fast, but was tough as nails. His name is A.J. DeFalco. He played in various indoor leagues for about ten years. I also think he published a book.