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does this have anything to do with evil dead or just about the book of the dead

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It's based on the works by H.P. Lovecraft, he is the one that actually first talked about a "Necronomicon." 'Evil Dead' based some of its story off concepts from those writings, as does this movie.

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no evil deads necronomicon was based on the Sumarian book of the dead
not HP Lovecraft

yeah hes a proffesor of being a dog

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"no evil deads necronomicon was based on the Sumarian book of the dead
not HP Lovecraft"
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Not according to Sam Raimi, who said that the idea for Evil Dead came into his head while he was recalling some of Lovecraft's short stories, which he'd read in high school.

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"Any technology sufficiently advanced would be indistinguishable from Magic."


OK I just thought it was important enough to make a certain point very clear.

H.P. (Howard Phillip) Lovecraft was real. Born in 1880 and died in 1934 I believe. He wanted to be the 20th century's first Goth horror writer like Poe. He was influenced not only by Poe but also by Lord Dunsany, Nathanial Hawthorne, Ambrose Bierce and other rather obscure (to today's readers) fantasy writers. He was also fascinated by Greek and Roman mythology as well as the 1001 Tales of the Arabian Nights. An uncle or some other relative created the name "ABDUL ALHAZRED" for HPL when he was a youngster so Lovecraft would have a character name for himself when he played out self-created stories based on the Arabian Nights tales. It wasn't until later in his life when he became a pulp magazine writer that he harkened back to his younger years when he CREATED the TOTALLY FICTITIOUS book of black magic which he called NECRONOMICON written by the equally fictitious ABDUL ALHAZRED. This entirely fake book was created solely to give his stories an additional feeling of reality. As well as being a writer, he was a student of many sciences and was heavily influenced by astronomy and geology. Several major discoveries made during his writing career sent Lovecraft into a writing phase much closer to early sci fi than true pure Gothic horror. These discoveries included the revised age of the Earth itself (Bible scholars stated the Earth's age at about 6000 years... geologists agreed until the early 19 teens that the earth was approximately 100 million years old... then the mind-blowing revelation that the earth was much much older than that...closer to three thousand million years!), Edwin Hubble's discovery that the milky way was a local group of stars called a galaxy and that there are countless other galaxies at a very great distance away all rushing away from each other and seperated by gigantic gulfs of pure black emptiness, Einstein's theory of relativity (time space matter and energy are basically all the same thing) and tried to incorporate his undersatnding of these new concepts into a framework of Gothic horror. It's strange to consider that Lovecraft's characters always responded with "horror" at the facing of these various transdimentional or just plain extraterrestrial beasties, but if the crew of the Enterprise would encounter them, they would probably be feeling the "Wonder of Discovery"
(BTW: If you try to look up any of the books or research papers listed in the appendix of Michael Crichton's book THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN, you will discover that NONE of them are real! Whether Crichton was directly influenced by HPL or not is beside the point.... but look at how real ANDROMEDA STRAIN felt and you'll appreciate how a much less sophisticated audience must have been manipulated by HPL with the use of the NECRONOMICON.) Lovecraft-a very prolific letter writer (wrote many more words in letters to fans and other writers than he ever did in his combined output of fiction)- also encouraged other writers of wierd fiction to create their own "books" of black magic hence Robert Bloch's "DE VERMIS MYSTERIIOUS" and Clarke Ashton Smith's "BOOK OF EIBON" among others.

In short, the NECRONOMICON does not exist, it never existed, there was NO Abdul Alhazred. They were simply all creations by a sadly overlooked and very talented writer who never made a decent living from his work during his life, but who now is worth millions of dollars in RPG's, movies and countless reprints of his limited body of work. If it wasn't for HPL, modern horror masters like King, Campbell, Rice, Lumley, Barker and others would all be saying "Would you like fries with that, sir?" Oh and as difficult as it is to capture the creepy atmosphere of HPL's work, I strongly recommend a book called "CTHULHU 2000" an absolutely wonderful collection of HPL inspired stories by modern short story writers.
So thank Howard Phillip Lovecraft for making modern horror fantasy what it is today.

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Just for people's curiosity.

Necronomicon is a combination of two Greek words, "nekros" and "nomos." Nekros essentially is a word for dead, and nomos means word, or statement, and came to mean a codex of words or sayings, or essentially a book. Therefore, Lovecraft, who would have been taught classical languages in school growing up, was well aware of these words and combined them to form his fabled, "Necromicon."

Incidently, in the Evil Dead movies, the name is changed throughout. In the first Evil Dead, the word Necronomicon is not found at all. The phrase is "morturom demonto." They claim this is roughly translted as the "book of the dead." This is actually inaccurate. It is a latin phrase which would most likely be translated as "explanation of death". Mort is the stem of "death" in latin (I'm nto familiar with the urom ending). Demonto is a corruption of what would be the Latin word demonstratio which essentially means "pointing out, describing, explaining." Therefore, this phrase (which is not accurate) means an explanation of death.

In the sequel and the third movie, the book is referred to as the Necronomicon ex Mortis. Oddly enough this is a redundant phrase combining Greek and Latin. Necronomicon is as we said Greek for Book of the Dead. ex Mortis is Latin for "of death." Therefore, this book would be the Book of the Dead of Death which is clearly redundant.

Just thought I would add my two cents.

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Oh, no worries. I am well aware of the use of Necronomicon in the Lovecraft works, having read many of them. I was simply making a comment about the connection between Lovecraft and Evil Dead, especially to the redundant and/or poor translations.

There is nothing wrong with Necronomicon being translated as Book of the Dead. That is an appropriate translation of the Greek phrases.

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Isn't logos the Greek translation for word, as in John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word... (En archē ēn ho Lógos...)? I believe that nomos means law. So it would mean the Law of the Dead.

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Funny you mention Crichton, in the appendix of "Eaters of the Dead" it has this...


GENERAL REFERENCE WORKS

The following are suitable for the general reader with no particular archaeological or historical background. Only works in English are cited.

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Azhared, Abdul. Necronomicon [ed. H. P. Lovecraft], Providence, Rhode Island, 1934.



Probably best I wrap this in a spoiler. Some comment about the book below..

It was also another book that felt unusually real ( at least as a child ) since he retold the travels of ibn Fadlan and continued in that style, I don't think it was until after finishing the book it actually stated the sources ( ibn Fadlan manuscript & Beowulf ). An unusual but enjoyable read.

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There is such a thing as the necronomicon I own it is a translation of a earlier work which fictious or not is a summarian text that is loosely based on the egyptian book of the dead which I also own. It basicly tells about burial rights and that afterlife like the necronomicon in the evil dead trilogy. Also the necronomicon has some magical atributes to it. You can believe in it or not doesn't matter to me just giving my point of view.

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There are both Egyptian and Tibetan versions of the "Book of the Dead."

The one you claim to own sounds like the Egyptian "Papyrus of Ani" created around 1240 B.C.E. and (poorly) translated by E.A. Wallis Budge around the turn of the Twentieth Century. Not a common book, but it fits all the attributes of which you speak except for one:

The culture called Sag-gi-ga ("the black headed people"), often referred to as Sumerian from the Akkadian word Shumer, sprung up in a place they later called called Ki-en-gi ("the place of the civilized lords") around Southern Mesapotamia in the neighborhood of 3500 B.C.E. They were later invaded by the Hittites and Egyptians and conquered. So, you see, the Sumerian religion may have influenced the Egyptian work, but not vice-versa.

The Dingir-a-ne-ne (pantheon of gods) consisted of An the Heavenly god, Nammu the Mother, Inanna the goddess of love and war (very similar to the Akkadian goddess Ishtar), Enlil the Wind God, as well as many other gods and goddesses. These were gods to be feared and worshipped in the Sumerian religion and one can only assume that fear was the motivator as every Dingir could not or would not save the Sumerian people from a fate which went beyond death: sinner or saint, all had a terrible future in the afterworld.

I'm not sure exactly where this perception of Sumerian culture being a place filled with wonder and magic (of either the good or evil kind). The people there were very unhappy and obviously absent of any kind of supernatural powers. If they did have them, they would have been used to improve the day-to-day lives of the Sag-gi-ga. Any improvement would have been readily sought and appreciated from a culture that writes, "Tears, lament, anguish, and depression are within me. Suffering overwhelms me. Evil fate holds me and carries off my life. Malignant sickness bathes me."

Happy people, no?

"Conservatives want live babies so they can grow up to be dead soldiers."

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Actually that statement is innacurate.
The Sumerians existed at the same time as the early Nile civilivations.
Cultures "borrow" things from each other all the time.
Especially religious iconography and texts.

And Azrael: Conservatives want live babies so they can be successful business people and summarily taxed. Liberals want dead babies so they have less of a proletariat to dupe into believing their empowered.

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Rubbish.

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