Such a challenging and interesting film deserves a better message board. People applauding O-Dog for gunning down the elderly Korean couple? Talking about how "cool" these characters are? How "funny" the film? Wanton misuse of the word "irony"?
I nominate Menace II Society for "The Worst Board on IMDB 2008 Award."
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
They looked 60ish to me. But I could be wrong.
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
People like O-Dog more because he was the most interesting and cool one, taking no crap from anybody. He was just fun but in the end you can see him almost breaking down and crying and thats real emotion, showing he had some heart. So it's not all about the thuggish ruggish O-DOg
shareHe was just stupid, immature, and reckless.
shareTo certain I agree with the original poster. It seems that a good portion of the members of this message board missed out on the intent of this movie.....quite sad.
shareVery true, and very sad.
shareI agree with the OP...
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Are you trolling? I honestly hope you are. I truly hope that your post isn't a reflection of the quality of the education system in whatever part of the world you are from. Maybe you are the one who should be on the Barney board- I think that program teaches grammar and you seem to be in great need of a grammar teacher.
But some good did come out of your post- it confirmed the OP's statement. You know, the one about this being a stupid board.
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Man you are an idiot. The funny thing is that you can't even tell. I am waiting for your response.......which will include some kind of unoriginal response that you heard on t.v. or from one of your bone headed pals.
sharePeople applauding O-Dog for gunning down the elderly Korean couple?
Talking about how "cool" these characters are?
How "funny" the film?
O-Dog damn well earned being followed around. He WAS a threat to them. He was dressed in gang colors in a time when that wasn't just poseur fashion. Also, be wary of statements with such broad, "they"s as such statements are an indication of racism.
That said, look at the posts. They say O-Dog was cool. Reminds me of the idiot skinheads who love American History X.
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
O-Dog damn well earned being followed around. He WAS a threat to them. He was dressed in gang colors in a time when that wasn't just poseur fashion.
So, the couple is bad for being wary of a couple of abusive punks?
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
All they did was buy two beers and ask for their change. The Koreans were the ones who started it. "I feel sorry for your mother." Why couldn't he wait 30 seconds so they could leave first? He pissed off O-Dog, and he snapped. I guess it was just one of those days.
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
No...that's not all that happened. And O-Dog was a well known and boastful hoodlum.
Look at the film analytically for a second. The directors clearly were not portraying O-Dog as a positive character or this scene as "cool." The Koreans were victims, not perpetrators. They didn't come to America and say, "Hey, I know, lets move to a neighborhood with a really high crime rate where we can get held up a lot just so that we can price gouge some )^)$#@s!"
South Central was the only area with low enough rent to open shop.
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
Ok, I see your point now. I never said what O-Did was cool though. I was just trying to explain things from his point of view. I don't think he should have shot the couple, but I think I know why he did it.
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Uhhh...As someone who has known gang members (Inactive or other wise) since when did khakis and wifebeaters become ”Gang Colors”? That's a new one to me.
”Deh Deh Deh, DA Dabacco”-Puert Rican dude from the ”I aint your Papi” episode of COPS.
For real.....the movie takes place in Watts where Crip and Blood gangs are at war. Jordan Downs is a Crip area.
A white T-Shirt and khakis is stereotypical "Cholo" clothing, not gang colors. The Hughes Brothers said they wanted to stress morw about their gangster lifestyle, but not talk much about gangs.
How old are you *beep* about 11, 12. Does your mother know you post these things on the net.
shareI personally loved this movie. I thought it was very tragic and scary because, to me, it seems very realistic. I grew up in TX, where there were Mexican gangs and people shooting people, drive-bys...my brother in law was killed at 15 so I know what goes on out there. I myself am into the Gothic lifestyle, so I usually stay away from "ghetto" movies, gangster movies (nothing personal, it just isn't my style). This one, however, is one of my top. What saddens me is how there are so many illiterate idiots who post here- almost every one I opened gave me a headache trying to decipher. Like this, for example- "o'dog quickly grab his gat den start shooting and backing up at da same time...
i was cracking up cause i kno i would of did da same damn thing...") Why is it so hard to spell? Jesus Christ, the only ones who seem to really love the movie are people who act as if they would be a part of something like that and come out unharmed, when in fact they would be shot almost instantly. It just aggravates me that people see films like this and think that's the life they want, or wish they had.
~I am the dream forgotten in the morning~
Not everyone is going to have the same views as you. I bet you watched Menace 2 Society to see how " life in da hood" really is didn't you?
R.I.P Adam Goldstein AKA DJ AM..... Heaven will finally have it's house DJ. Rock that *beep*
Actually, I watched this movie because a moderately famous screenwriter (you don't know his name, but if you like 1980s scifi/satire, you likely own one of his films on DVD) told me to.
We were talking about how most American directors treat violence as a cartoon and how European directors who lived through WWII treat violence with much more reverence. He named The Hughes Brothers, and specifically Menace II Society as a film from America that seemed to grok violence. I watched it as research for a project I was working on at the time.
Also, I've seen some of the Hughes Brothers' other films, and with the exception of the despicable "American Pimp" I found all of them to be beautifully shot and intellectually engaging.
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Saul Williams
www.myspace.com/ohhorrorofhorrors
It is polarizing.
You've mentioned how it reminds you of people who root for skinheads in American History X but this isn't new.
Clockwork Orange had the same effect on youth and is still part of the underground culture for many morons. Thousands of soldiers also get a boner watching the carnage in blatantly anti-war movies.
I guess it's what terrifies me about art at times but at the same time, it kind of proves the point of the filmmakers. If your movie is authentic enough that different people will find different meanings in it (just like in real life) you've made something special.
The Hughes brothers seem very aware of this. Remember that scene where they are all crashing in the living room and watching the tape of the killing of the Koreans, laughing? The very moment I saw this, I couldn't help but think "some people will watch this movie the very same way, high-fiving each others each time a crime is committed". And I was certain the Hughes brothers were very aware of this while filming that scene.
The same story can be a cautionary tale for someone and a sales pitch on how to live your life for someone else.
Very well said.
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
www.myspace.com/ohhorrorofhorrors