one thing that never made sense, if Danny got blown into the movie when the dynamiate came ripping through the screen and into the theater, when Danny and Arnold came out of the movie later on, wouldnt the theater be on fire or have a huge hole in the floor or something? and how could nick in the projection booth not hear that explosion?
sharethank you...the movie was supposed to convince us there were 2 separate worlds in the film, the movie world and the real world. with a plot hole like that it makes the rest of the movie pretty unbelievable after that
sharei was thinking about that too when i watched it, but what can ya do!
shareYou know, first watching I though the popcorn extinguished the dynamite. Then I saw in later viewings how you can see some light at the popcorn as Danny runs towards the screen.
Honestly, I don't know what the case is.
Just a thought: maybe it's "movie dynamite" that blows loud and flashes bright, but does no real damage other than throwing people in the air.
transmentalist nailed it.
The movie is too abstract to try and cite this as a plot hole.
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Becuase it turned real like Arnold. The ticket was switching to the other world as it was switching worlds, the dynamite went through the screen, it blew up AS whats his name was being switched into the other world so that's why there was no damage. Only people in that same room could hear it. He was the only one who was in the room. If the dynamite blew up after he went into the other world, it would have caused damage to the theater.
~Midna
Because movie guns and real guns both put bullet holes into things, that's why he put bullet holes into the taxi. The difference that was illustrated in this case is that movie taxis explode when shot, real taxis don't.
I'm gonna second this
"Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the Gun" - Army of Darkness - Ash (Bruce Campbell)
That was my though aswell, also seeing as the 'Jack Slater world' to get shoot in the chest is considered a flesh wound, guns that need no reload, damp off oil with a couple of bits of paper, an animated cartoon cat on the force, so dynamite is probably like a flash/bang
sharehe could hear it he probably pursumed it was the movie. he would have changed the screen as well. danny could have cameout of another screening.
sharetransmentalist is absolutely right. Any dynamite being directly handled by an actor in a movie, would be dummy dynamite. Non-explosive.
shareI agree that the movie dynamite turned into a dummy explosive in the real world, but here's where you can think about a plot hole here then. If things from the movie world come into our world and are bound by our rules (i.e. the guy who was shot and killed for his shoes didn't cause a panic or send the police right away), how does the Grim Reaper have the power to 'cause the death of people with the touch of death?
Remember when the Grim Reaper came out of the movie after Benedict was killed, he touched someone and they started to die due to the touch of death. That's not supposed to happen in the real world. Plus the ticket has a mind of its own. Remember when Jack and Benedict's butler played chicken and crashed into each other, the butler was killed, but Benedict disappeared. Possibly he might have gone into Slater III if there was an ad in the newspaper and the ticket might've sent him into that movie through the newspaper.
just reaching for straws but maybe the grim reaper IS "The Grim Reaper".
just trying to keep the suspension of belief alive...
You're forgetting the dialogue Death had in the movie theater. In it, he talks about his 'list' of people who will die and conveys knowledge of Danny's eventual demise, even noting that he doesn't "do fiction" when he says Jack is not on his list to die (as a fictional character who doesn't even die in his own movies or as a fictional character who cannot die because he is immortalized in the movie medium, you can decide). It isn't that Death used some 'death touch' on the guy outside; I didn't even think he touched the guy, seeing as someone in the real world would have reacted to the stimulus and the guy doesn't. Instead of causing him to die, Death merely seemed to tick him off his list, as he already knew that was that person's appointed place and time to die. It is actually a surprisingly abstract, intriguing treatment for such a minor character for this type of movie.
The larger issue I have with the movie is that while Death seems unusually aware of the differences between the fictional and real world for a fictional character, he is only used to make Danny think of the other half of the ticket and then discarded. Unless he finds the first half of the ticket outside his theater and feels compelled to take it back into the Ingrid Bergman movie (who knows how THAT would turn out), why are we left with the personification of Death walking around the real world after the movie ends?
The dynamite is prop dynamite both in jacks world and the real world. It has the same effect in both worlds. Remember when Jacks cousin's house blew up and comically threw the police into a tree where they were intact enough to give a witty comment, rather than being dismembered by the blast?
Death is Death in the Seventh Seal and continues to be Death when he moves to Dannys world.
The dynamite being 'movie' dynamite appears to be valid, but keep in mind that once characters from the movie world are transported to the real world, everything about them becomes real, effectively. Slater's bullets pierce the back of the cab and cause holes. If there were blanks in his guns and not bullets (going by the logic someone said about the actors handling 'dummy' dynamite in the movie world), then his blanks wouldn't have done anything to the cab Benedict is escaping in.
Simply put, when things cross over from the movie world to the real world, they are automatically "turned" real by Houdini's magic ticket.
As far as that leap of logic is concerned, the dynamite exploding in the theater could verily be written off as a minor plot hole. Or, as someone said, the explosion could've gone right back into the movie along with Danny, effectively being swallowed by the crossing over, or what have you.
One thing I couldn't get past, is what happened to Benedict in the back of the cab after his driver played chicken with Slater in real world New York. It's my understanding that, inside a movie, a person who has the ticket can cross back into the real world at any point in time, and at any place. I.e., when Benedict gets thrown through the wall (by Slater after crashing in with his monster truck), he crosses back into the real world. From that perspective, the point of transition is arbitrary.
But when going from the real world to the movie world, I assumed that some sort of screen or projection had to be necessary. Unless Benedict had a miniaturized TV in the back seat of the cab, I don't see how he could've crossed over to the movie world, since there was no screen of sorts in the back of the cab.
Alternatively, he might not have been in the cab at all, and may have simply ordered his butler to distract Slater and play chicken so that he could escape. This possibility is never acknowledged in the film's real world, however, so we can only assume that Benedict did crossover back to the movie world at that point.
As far as that is concerned, I consider that to be a plot hole more than anything else.
It is assumed that the fictional characters are not normal therefore the ticket responds differently to them. When Jack was dying and there was no film on screen the ticket responded and started the film up from having no reel in place. Like they said, the ticket has a mind of its own. Benedict might be getting enhanced reactions from the ticket that is allowing him to go back and forth between the real world and his world whenever he wants to. The old man even hints that maybe the ticket just reacted to Danny because it chose to. This could mean that it probably wouldn't work for everyone.
shareYou know the biggest plothole in the movie is?
IT'S ABOUT A MAGIC MOVIE-TICKET THAT TRANSPORTS YOU INTO AN ACTION MOVIE!
Nah. That happened to me once. Unfortunately I missed the hero's car, ended up falling on the side of the road instead. Had to wipe tables for a living for four months before I could figure out how to get back. Luckily though, I was only gone for two hours in real time, so I didn't miss anything.
shareLOL! I don't think you could go into a movie and get a job. Though it would depend on the movie. I mean I graduated Highschool in 2006. So if I took my diploma from 2006 and brought it into the movie...Ghostbusters I wouldn't be able to get a job cause the employer in the movie would think it's a fake.
Slimer! That was my clean uniform!" Winston Real Ghostbusters Episode Lost and foundry
its a movie, who knows what could happen, maybe they just let you work without needing proof of anything and they give you cash, who knows?
"sir, sir, i gotta check and see if you've soiled yourself, I'll get to you in a moment, sir!"
In the ghostbusters's world you wouldn't even be born yet!
shareNot sure you need a diploma to wipe tables!
shareI think the ticket does more then just take people into movies. Benedict tried to escape the rooftop with the ticket but the ticket thought otherwise.
The ticket is magic so remember that the rules of reality don't always play out as they should.
Magneto Grim Reaper is death. He has simply taken the form of the magneto Grim Reaper. he could have easily been Brad Pitt but still the same death.
Here's a real plothole. I've seen the 7th seal and the whole movie is in the Swedish language. So therefore The Grim Reaper in it would not speak English.
Kelloway: Doyle, get in the car.
Doyle: But I ordered Onion Rings.
Kelloway: Doyle!
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