Nedry was an idiot.


He should have realized when the storm hit he wouldn't be able to make it to the dock. Unlike the book it's made even worse by his video phoning the guy on the ship and he can see how bad the storm is. Unlike the book where he is supposed to meet Dodson who is on his own private boat. Not on the one the staff on the Island are using. Thus he was ignorant of how bad the storm was in the book.

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Indeed, the second half of the plan was poorly executed, and resulted in his untimely death. Why the frack would Nedry disable the electrical fences in so many areas of the park just to escape? He had to know the dangers of doing that better than most people at the park, and with the storm on the way, why not just postpone the heist to a later date.

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Greed, that's why.

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Oh my goodness, I just realized why he chose to leave during the storm. The storm was a cover for his escape! He was hoping to use the chaos of the storm to keep everyone distracted while he pulled off his heist. However, I don't think he anticipated:

a.) how bad the storm was going to be when it hit the island

b.) how long it would take to mess with the files on the park's computers and steal the information and embryos he had been hired to procure

c.) lack of visibility when driving to the docks on his own

I think he knew how dangerous it was to turn off the fences, and he probably didn't care if anyone else got hurt so long as he escaped and got his millions, but the thing was, he didn't plan this heist very well, and paid for it with his life. Sadly, other people paid for his greed with their lives as well.

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Actually, I'm pretty sure he was planning on coming back. The guy he was talking to on the phone that he also saw on security camera footage was supposed to be Dodson's guy who he was supposed to give the Embryos to. Then after that he'd come back. I don't think Nedry would reveal his plan to some random sailor on the ship. Much less talk to some random sailor on the ship who could report to Hammond and co that he planned to get on the ship.

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Coming back to...Jurassic Park? I doubt it. He was going to to slip off the island and collect his millions. If he returned to JP at some point Hammond would have concluded it was Nedry.

Nedry was greedy, he didn't care about the weather.

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I don't think he was planning on coming back. Nedry knew that his boss would eventually figure out what he'd done, and returning wouldn't have been a good idea. Chances are, he planned on going to another, far away country and living off the money Dodson would have paid him.

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I guess it's because I have read the novel a lot and he planned to return to the control room in the book.

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In the book he was going to come back and keep working for Jurassic Park.

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Guess the Dilophosaur had other plans, hehe.

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His plan was crap too, at least in the movie version. Even if all went well (no storm, he made the ferry) Hammond and Ray Arnold were onto him and could have radioed the mainland police to arrest him at the port. The Dodson private boat plot makes more sense.

Nedry was supposed to be a wildcard idiot. He is the embodiment of Malcolm’s chaos theory.

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This. That was Crichton's point. Humans just fuck everything up.

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^ yup agreed

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He should have just turned off the security cameras, grabbed the embryos and then had one of dotsons guys parked outside the visitors center and handed him the shaving cream and then go back to the control room. Heck he even could have given the guy a Jurassic Park shirt so that he would blend in.

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Speaking only on the movie, I think his plan was for the most part good, but the execution of his escape was poor, and the storm threw a variable into it that he didn't count on.

First it had to be that night, where most of the staff was leaving. That way there was hardly anybody around to interfere or catch him. Also if he managed to get on the ferry at the last minute, nobody would think much of him being there. They would probably just assume he wasn't needed that weekend either and was leaving the island for a few days. Someone else asked wouldn't Hammond and Arnold radio the ferry or the mainland. Well that's because he shut down all their communications, including phone lines. They couldn't even make calls within their own building, let alone off the island. The control room at that point was blind, deaf and mute. By the time they got back on line he would have already met his contact on the main land and probably be back on a plane to anywhere in the world.

The actual stealing of the embryos was brilliant and flawlessly executed. First he let them know he was doing some work that might cause some minor systems to flicker on and off. So that way no one would think much of it when the cameras shut off. Then timing it perfectly for when the cameras would be off, grabbing the embryos and getting out. Also he didn't just crash the whole system at once. Just one thing at a time, based on what he needed at that moment. First the cameras, then the fences, then everything else. This way no would even notice that anything was wrong, until it was too late.

Getting to the docks might be the only part that was not well planned. Did he have to go thru the park, or was that just the fastest route? Or was there more security systems that he couldn't hack into to outside the actual park. And he probably should have had the route memorized, even without signs. Granted the storm thru everything for a loop, but still if he was prepared enough it wouldn't have mattered.

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If that is true and he wasn't coming back, he'd be held responsible and would be facing prison time for criminal theft and criminal negligence. Maybe they would eventually find him. Frankly though with that being his plan, I'm glad he was eaten by a Diloposaur. Even though nobody else found out about it.

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Nedry’s plan was actually fool proof. He disabled the park security systems just long enough to preoccupy Hammond and Arnold, under the guise of a system update. The quickest route of reaching the East dock was through the park, which meant he had to disable a number of electrical fences. If all went as planned he would have been back in the control room within 10 minutes and restore everything to normal, and no one would be any wiser. What he didn’t account for was the severity of the storm and getting lost in the park itself.

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I know he planned to return in the novel. But in the movie, it isn't clear that he plans to return especially since the guy from Dodson is on the same boat as the other park employees. It makes it seem he's leaving or else one of those employees would say they saw him on the dock on Monday morning leading to Hammond being suspicious.

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I don’t think Nedry intended to leave with Dodgeson, otherwise there would be no point in Dodgeson meeting him on the island in the first place.

Hammond would have suspicion Nedry stole the embryos, but with no concrete evidence he wouldn’t be able to have him criminally charged. And they wouldn’t have found out until the hurricane had passed anyway, giving Nedry plenty of time to leave the country and disappear.

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Except he wasn't meeting Dodson on the boat in the movie. That guy he was talking to and watching on the video camera was not Dodson. At least in the book he was meeting Dodson on the dock who was coming in his own boat by himself. But the movie makes it clear he's meeting someone who works for Dodson on the ship the Employees are taking.

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Well same difference, it seemed pretty clear he was meeting the guy on the dock to hand-off the embryos, and not leave the island.

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Seriously? He was getting off the island, clearly.

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If you paid attention to the movie you would realize Nedry was meeting Dodgeson's guy at the dock to hand off the embryos. Why else do you think he would even be there? Also why else would Nedry set a timer for the white rabbit virus if he was gonna leave the island, or bother disabling the security cameras? Also in the book it's explicitly mentioned Nedry wanted to make it back to the control room in time. Seriously, pay attention next time.

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LOL, why disable security cameras? You're really dumb. So they may not accidentally see him taking the embryos? The storm was his only chance to reach the embryos, and after he took them, there was no coming back. His program is precisely timed to open a corridor for him to escape. He was begging the guy at the docks to wait for him. There was no way he could steal dozens of multi-million dollar embryos and then just come back and sit on that chair unnoticed. Nedry knew that, because he wasn't stupid.

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Lol it’s funny how you’re completely wrong about this, but keep arguing otherwise. Again, if Nedry was planning to leave the island, he wouldn’t bother making a hand off at the dock with Dodgeson’s guy. He would have just gotten on the boat and then met Dodgeson somewhere else. The fact that there was someone at the dock to meet him makes it very obvious he was making a hand off to return to the control room.

There was no way he could steal dozens of multi-million dollar embryos and then just come back and sit on that chair unnoticed.


You moron. That was precisely Nedry’s plan. He designed the White Rabbit virus to be disabled with a password once he got back to the control room. Hammond wouldn’t even notice the embryos were missing until the next day, and Nedry would be gone. And it was explicitly mentioned in the book that Nedry fully intended to return to the control room to turn everything back to normal. Nedry only wanted to steal embryos, not commit mass murder...

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You are even more retarded than i assumed you could be.

+ If he wasn't gonna leave the island, a sporty dude like Nedry would never bother to rush through the storm to hand the can over. He would demand someone come pick it up from him at the door.
+ In fact, he would NOT casually give a can of millions of dollars to a random guy. He would never let that can out of his sight, until he is safely off the island with a bag of money on his lap.
+ If Nedry was there the whole night, and was gonna be able to leave the next day, he could have just taken the can tomorrow, when it's all shiny and dandy.

No, he only had one chance to reach the embryos and then split. That was why he was rushing and begging at a tropical storm. Anything else only makes sense for an imbecile like you.

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He would demand someone come pick it up from him at the door.


You mean drive right up to the main entrance where Hammond and the others would be watching? Also, traveling through the park in the middle of a hurricane would be impossible for someone who doesn’t know how to get around. That would be a terrible plan. Nedry was obviously making a hand off at the dock.

————-In fact, he would NOT casually give a can of millions of dollars to a random guy. He would never let that can out of his sight, until he is safely off the island with a bag of money on his lap. ————-

He wasn’t “some guy,” he was obviously working for Biosyn, and Dodgeson had already mentioned his man would be at the dock. Besides which, Nedry had already received $750,000 upfront, he had no reason to believe he would be shorted the rest.

————- If Nedry was there the whole night, and was gonna be able to leave the next day, he could have just taken the can tomorrow, when it's all shiny and dandy. ————-

Or, ya know, he didn’t do that because Hammond would potentially find the embryos before then, plus the canister was only designed to hold the embryos for 46 hours, plus he wasn’t expecting the tropical storm to hit and Dodgeson’s guy to leave early.

————-No, he only had one chance to reach the embryos and then split. That was why he was rushing and begging at a tropical storm. Anything else only makes sense for an imbecile like you.————-

That’s a really dumb theory. If Nedry just left the island without restoring power then he would be responsible for countless deaths, a lot more than just theft. Also Hammond would immediately know it was him who stole the embryos. The reason he was rushing through the storm was to get back to the control room in the timeframe to restore power. Also because the guy was leaving the dock early. Also did I mention THIS WAS ALREADY EXPLAINED IN THE FKING BOOK AS WHAT HAPPENED.

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--- Nedry was obviously making a hand off at the dock. ---

Obviously, he doesn't need to do a hand off at the dock. Only a total moron would think that's a good idea. He can hand the stuff over half a mile away from the visitor's center, assuming the idiotic claim that Nedry could go back and keep working at the control room with nobody any wiser. He wouldn't, so that argument falls apart right away.

---Nedry had already received $750,000 upfront, he had no reason to believe he would be shorted the rest.---

You obviously weren't paying attention. Nedry is a very greedy dude, he doesn't wanna pay for a 20$ meal even though he has a bag full of money on his lap. It's completely out of character for him to just let the embryos to some guy without receiving his money.

---Or, ya know, he didn’t do that because Hammond would potentially find the embryos before then----

Exactly, so, it would be foolish to return to his desk and risk the others finding out that the embryos are missing. And 46 hours are almost 2 days, so in your crooked logic, he can finish the tour for the visitors and be on the mainland for the weekend. He would even get a full months check or something!

---If Nedry just left the island without restoring power then he would be responsible for countless deaths----

Countless deaths? There are like, 5 people other than him. And besides, do you think he cares?

---Also Hammond would immediately know it was him who stole the embryos.---

So what? He would be gone. The real danger is if he stays.

----The reason he was rushing through the storm was to get back to the control room in the timeframe to restore power.----

Oh, i'm sure nobody would notice or care why Nedry was soaked wet and was short of breath when he returned from the vending machine half an hour later.

---Also because the guy was leaving the dock early.----

Yes, and also because he WANTED to be ON THAT BOAT!

---FKING BOOK---

A LOT IS DIFFERENT IN THE F'CKING BOOK!

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I can see you're still desperate to be right even though you're 100% wrong. Hilarious.

He can hand the stuff over half a mile away from the visitor's center


Then why didn't he genius? Then why was the guy there at the dock in the first place? If Nedry was getting on the boat himself then there would be no reason for Dodgeson's man to be there. Also it's evident you didn't pay attention to the movie:

Dodgeson: "There's enough coolant inside for 36 hours. The embryos have to be back here in San Jose by then."

Nedry: "That's up to your guy on the boat. 7 'o'clock tomorrow on the east dock, make sure he gets it right."

Do I need to spell it out for you further?

It's completely out of character for him to just let the embryos to some guy without receiving his money


He already had half up front, Nedry wasn't an idiot, he knew he was good for the rest. If they got "cheap on him" he would have found ways to ruin them as well. Pay attention.

it would be foolish to return to his desk and risk the others finding out that the embryos are missing


They wouldn't realize the embryos were missing until the rest of the science team returned to the island, genius. He was going to leave on the Ferry the next morning. Besides, there was nothing to tie Nedry to the missing embryos. Hammond would only have suspicion.

And besides, do you think he cares?


You realize being wanted for negligent homicide/manslaughter is a lot worse than theft right?

The real danger is if he stays.


He wasn't planning on staying indefinitely, genius.

why Nedry was soaked wet and was short of breath when he returned from the vending machine half an hour later.


I'm sure he would have a change of clothes, or would come up with an excuse that he got locked outside.

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he WANTED to be ON THAT BOAT!


If he WANTED to be ON THAT BOAT, then he wouldn't need to meet anyone at the dock, genius. Nor would he need an 18 minute window to disable security. Nor would he bother programming the whte_rbt. obj or keep checking his watch in the jeep. Genius.

A LOT IS DIFFERENT IN THE F'CKING BOOK!


What exactly about Nedry's plan is DIFFERENT IN THE F'CKING BOOK?

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LOL, you are really squirming to make your dumb dumb points across. I am 100% right. You have totally lost this dude.

---Then why didn't he genius?---

Because he wants to be on that boat.

---That's up to your guy on the boat.---

Because the guy on the boat is arranging Nedry's way out the island.

---he knew he was good for the rest---

How?

---he would have found ways to ruin them as well---

How? You are just making stuff up at this point.

---You realize being wanted for negligent homicide/manslaughter is a lot worse than theft right?---

You obviously can't realize that if a giant corporation can't find someone who robbed them of billions of dollars worth of their research, someone who may have indirectly caused a few deaths will definitely not be found.

---He wasn't planning on staying indefinitely, genius.---

He wasn't planning on staying AT ALL.

---I'm sure he would have a change of clothes, or would come up with an excuse that he got locked outside.---

Thinking that would be a plausible explanation requires them to be utter imbeciles.

---If he WANTED to be ON THAT BOAT, then he wouldn't need to meet anyone at the dock, genius.---

He isn't meeting anyone. He needs that guy on the boat, because he is leaving before he was supposed to leave. Did your parents drop you on your head?

---Nor would he need an 18 minute window to disable security.---

He needs 18 mins to steal the embryos and make it to the docks. Not to steal the embryos, make his way to the docks in a tropical storm, rush back to the visitors center, change his clothes with identical dry/clean ones, and be back on his seat to finish his "shift".

---keep checking his watch in the jeep.---

Because HE WANTS TO BE ON THE BOAT WHEN IT LEAVES! If he could be on the boat tomorrow morning, why is he rushing today?

---What exactly about Nedry's plan is DIFFERENT IN THE F'CKING BOOK?---

It means it's irrelevant what the book says. Jesus.

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LOL, you are really squirming to make your dumb dumb points across. I am 100% right. You have totally lost this dude.

Lmao, stop projecting. You're trying to argue a non-point that is 100% false. It's utterly pathetic because you can't handle being wrong.
Because he wants to be on that boat.

Stop dodging the issue. You just said he could have made a hand-off at the visitor centre. I clearly explained why that wasn't possible, and if he could then he wouldn't be heading to the boat anyway. Way to defeat your own point.
Because the guy on the boat is arranging Nedry's way out the island.

Wtf does this even mean? "Arranging Nedry's way out the island"? If all Nedry had to do was get on the boat, why would the Biosyn guy even be there? The answer is that Nedry was making a hand-off to the guy on the boat. The dialogue I quoted proves my point. Get it through your thick skull you ingrate.
How?

Because they literally agreed half up front and the rest upon delivery of the embryos? What reason would Biosyn have to withhold the money from Nedry and piss him off? You're not very accomplished at critical thinking are you?
How? You are just making stuff up at this point.

It's literally in the dialogue you stupid peasant. Did you even watch the scene? To quote: Don't get cheap on me Dodgeson, that was Hammond's mistake. End quote. It was obviously a thinly veiled threat. How much more evidence do you need you stupid cunt?
You obviously can't realize that if a giant corporation can't find someone who robbed them of billions of dollars worth of their research, someone who may have indirectly caused a few deaths will definitely not be found.

Who said anything about being found? You ever figure that Nedry simply isn't a psychopath who wanted to leave the fences off and have everyone on the island being brutally killed? Also would you rather be the subject of a corporate manhunt for theft or a nationwide manhunt for murder? Think about it numbnuts.
He wasn't planning on staying AT ALL.

Again, where's your proof you stupid imbecile?
Thinking that would be a plausible explanation requires them to be utter imbeciles.

What explanation? All they knew was that Nedry went to get a soda from the vending machine.
He needs that guy on the boat, because he is leaving before he was supposed to leave.

Again, what the F-CK are you babbling about? "needs the guy because he is leaving before he was supposed to leave?" This is literally a non-sequitur that doesn't address my point at all. Are you just now realizing how you've argued yourself into a corner and can't get out. Again, explain your point: if Nedry is leaving on the boat, then Why does the Biosyn guy have to be there at all? That's CHECK and MATE you little bitch.
He needs 18 mins to steal the embryos and make it to the docks. Not to steal the embryos, make his way to the docks in a tropical storm, rush back to the visitors center, change his clothes with identical dry/clean ones, and be back on his seat to finish his "shift".

Holy f-ck, you're still obsessed with being wrong. The reason the boat was leaving early was because of the tropical storm. Nedry did NOT plan the white rabbit virus in advance of the storm, because no one knew it was going to hit. He had programmed an 18 minute window because that was the least amount of time before Hammond would get suspicious about his absence. Also I already said The book explained that Nedry was heading back to the control room. The white rabbit virus was designed to cover its tracks once the correct commands were given. Why would Nedry bother programming such a thing if he wasn't going to return to the control room? CHeck and MATE again bitch.
If he could be on the boat tomorrow morning, why is he rushing today?

Because he's making a handoff to Dodgeson's man, you colossal lemming.
It means it's irrelevant what the book says. Jesus.

Oh yes, it's "irrelevant" even though his plan is EXACTLY the same in the book, and there's no evidence Nedry was leaving the island that night. Stop talking out your ass you stupid butthurt troll.

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It's clear that you vacant imbecile has nothing else to do, but at least waste our time on something that actually makes sense a little bit? Okay? Until then, you are not worth an extra minute of my time. A word of advice: if you keep being this dumb when you become an adult one day, you will fail in life.

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It's clear that you vacant imbecile has nothing else to do, but at least waste our time on something that actually makes sense a little bit? Okay? Until then, you are not worth an extra minute of my time. A word of advice: if you keep being this dumb when you become an adult one day, you will fail in life.


If I wanted to take life advice from a moron who can't even pay attention to a blockbuster movie, then I would be an impossibly stupid idiot like you. Fuck off with your bullshit.

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LOL, you think you can tell me off, little fucknut? Being the utter idiot you are, you need every piece of life advice, you pea-brained loser. You are so unintelligent, your laughable claim about Nedry's plan is the brightest moment of your miserable life. Even Nedry was smarter than you, and he was eaten by a chicken sized dinosaur.

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I didn’t bother reading your reply. Just be content with the fact that I verbally annihilated you and you’re being a little butthurt bitch about it. You completely failed to invalidate any of my arguments. You fail at logic and life in general. So long dickhead.

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I don't give a rat's ass about what you read. You are an imbecile who can think that a ridiculous plan is actually plausible. You have no valid points, and the idiotic remarks you made are crushed by my arguments. My advice to you is to not make life choices without supervision, as you horribly suck at even the most basic judgement.

Sweet dreams, moron.

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I didn’t even bother reading your reply. All I know is that you gave up and lost the argument long ago and are now resorting to fallacious ad hominem attacks. With each reply you just look weaker and more pathetic. Have fun with yourself, LOL

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I frankly wish you would both stop arguing. Or better yet, PM each other. Cause I do not like it when half the posts in a topic of mine consist of 2 people arguing with each other.

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I'm sorry you have to suffer this. I also have more important things to do, but if we keep quiet these trolls think they are right. Someone needs to remind them their place. PM wouldn't work because everyone has to see the moron as he is.

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Then don't make a topic in the first place.

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You and that other guy could have peacefully agreed to disagree instead of acting like a bunch of jerks to one another. But you and him both wanted the last word.

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I don’t have to agree to shit when his opinion is retarded and he’s a moron.

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I did not say you had to agree with him. Just do not make a big deal out of nothing.

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He’s the one making a big deal out of nothing. He doesn’t have to reply.

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I'm sorry, but an utter idiot like you are needs to be put on his place.

Keep squirming little piece of shit, you have lost.

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Keep dreaming loser. I won the argument easily. You know you lost, and you have been trying to cover it up since the beginning :)

I mean, dude, you are a simpleton who thinks such an idiotic plan would actually work. Even Nedry knew better :)

Anyways, remember that you are a massive failure, that i feel sad for you but am amused at the same time, and as i said, refrain from making life choices without supervision of someone with a double digit IQ.

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I have answered all your laughable remarks. You must be brain dead or something, as evident by your sad clinging to an idiotic, non-existent plan.

Your plan makes Nedry go out apparently for the vending machine, steal the embryos, get to the docks, deliver the embryos, all during the storm mind you, take a bag of money, drive back, get back to the building, change his soaked clothes with identical ones, hide the bag, go back to the office, pretend that nothing happened, finish the tour, finish his shift, and in the next morning, leave the island with his boss he just robbed millions off of. Well, Nedry was not an imbecile like you, but he still couldn't even execute the first half of that plan. The way you moron claimed, it would be impossible. Even a 6 year old chimp can see that. You can't. Because you are a doofus and a bitter looser.

Really, i'm not debating with you anymore, i just posted this again to show everyone here what a huge retard you are.

You are a remarkable piece of human failure. I feel sad for you, but you amuse me at the same time.

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I guess that makes sense.

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The storm was the wild card. Nedry had to go when he did because the coolant in the cannister had a limited time before it thawed. Dead embryos = no money.

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This is what he should have done, Nedry sneaks one of Dodson's guys onto the Island, gives him a Jurassic Park uniform so he blends in and everyone just assumes he's a worker. Then after everyone's done he only deactivates the security cameras, takes the embryo's like he did in the film, then goes to the front door, passes them off to Dodson's guy who then gives him a Coke so his alibi works, and Dodson's guy gets off the Island in his own boat that he brought. No need to deactivate fences and no one would be able to figure out it was Nedry who took the embryo's assuming they noticed the difference.

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What was wrong with Dodson anyway? Why didn't he just say, "Well do it another day. It's too risky in the storm. I'll be back."

lol why'd he want to risk it all at the worst moment when he already paid Nedry half the money? Nedry himself should've been like, "I can't make it in 15 minutes. Oh well, I got half the money. It's better than nothing."

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What would happen when they realize many embryos were missing? And the only instance security doors and cameras didn't work was when Nedry was out "for the vending machine". There was no way he could get away with that, so he had to leave.

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It looked like there were a lot of embryos in there maybe when the people in the lab got back they wouldn't notice???? Either way no one in the control room is going to remember the one time Nedry went to get a drink 4 days ago.

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Those embryos were worth millions. There must be exact records of every single one of them, their species, what state of development each one of them is in, in whose shift their cellular mitosis was initiated, at what date they were put into cryopreservation, everything must be under record. To say such high end research can be arbitrarily handled is insane.

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I have a feeling there were many trips to the vending machines, or the bathroom by Nedry. Doubtful they would remember that one time.

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When a single multi-million specimen disappears, believe me, they will remember that.

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