The Ending


What's the deal with the ending? The father walking to airport security and it looks like he's being arrested???

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i came on the boards to talk about the ending too. it didn't look like he was being arrested. the mom was just really sad about the whole situation, and the dad was fine with it. i think it's the fact that he's getting a grandchild is liberating, so that's why he lifted his arms up, even with a recent stroke..i don't know. the movie could've gone for a better ending.

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I always just thought he was getting inspected by airport security.... There's a deeper meaning?

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Aside from the beauty of the last shot...there is an elegange to the old man's movement, to me it seems to be a resignation of his conventional and traditional expectations...

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Yeah, I think you're right, if we have to find some meaning for that

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The security guard is waving a metal detector across the father at the airport terminal gate. This was fairly common practice in U.S. airports in the 1990s (Pre 9-1-1).
I think the ending is symbolic of the old culture adapting to contemporary society. Although the father may not understand why his son would ultimately choose to be in a homosexual relationship in a foreign country and reject traditional Chinese family customs, in the end he seems to accept the fact that the world has changed. He may not agree with his son's decision to reject the traditional way of life, but his love for his son will endure. He is thankful that he will have a grandchild and that his son will be happy with another man. He stretches his arms, like a bird spreading its wings, demonstrating that, on an emotional level, he is at peace with the world.

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I never put too much thought into that, but it was nice the parents respected their son's choice regarding a romantic partner although it will take time to understand.

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A highly ritualized gesture.
Many Ang Lee films have moments similar to this occuring near the end.
This might be a covention in Chinese dramatic tradition as I have seen
some other Chinese directors using this.

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I watched this in class yesterday and one of my classmates said that his gesture and the fact that the security guard was bending down near Mr. Gao's crotch signified that he was also gay and that explains why he was so understanding. Other students seemed to remember other instances where Mr. Gao expressed homosexuality.

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That idea really intrigues me. I want to watch the movie again now and see if I can see that in Mr. Gao's actions and words.

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Mr. Gao never said words imply he is gay. Those words are about the marriage arranged by his parents, i.e. Weitong's grandparents.

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they just leave the country, that's all. What's the matter?
By the way, the ending is some sentimental garbage, all emotional scenes are some kind *beep*

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Please.

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If you know more about Asian culture and Buddhism, you will know the symbolic meaning of that gesture. It was ridiculous that some American kids thought his father was also gay, LMAO! What a shallow and homophobic interpretation of that symbolic gesture. Your ignorance really insulted yourself. That is one move in Tai Ji (Tai-Chi), which means that he is at peace with something. Google Tai Ji (Tai Chi), please. It is also related to Ang Lee's another movie, pushing hands, in which pushing is also another move of Tai Ji (Tai Chi). Actually, the father was played by the same actor. Pushing hands, the wedding banquet, and eat drink man woman are the trilogy of Ang's father depiction. Ang Lee had talked about that in his interviews.

Ang Lee is a very detailed oriented person. You can find many symbolic things in his movies. If you know more, you will enjoy his movies more.

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Thank you for the explantion antonyleecruise but to assume that some may not have understood are shallow and homophobic is going to far. What a rude piece of sh&% you are. Therefore a simply answer would have been enough. Get your butt off your shoulder and be a bit more pleasent.

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You call the poster a " piece of sh&% " and advise him to "get his butt off his shoulder" and you think HE'S rude ???

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The father is a general, never surrendered by raising his hands during his millitary career. After retirement, he wants a grandson from his gay son. So,
my interpretation of the ending before the sign of 'China airline" is that " As life goes on, you have to give in".

What's the purpose to leaglize a marriage between a man and a woman?

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>My interpretation is that " As life goes on, you have to give in".

This is the best interpretation I have come across.

The homosexual theory mentioned above is refreshing, but indeed sounds ridiculous to us Chinese I’m afraid. People are reading it too much.

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I've seen this movie several times and there is no indication that the father is gay. That a stupid and ignorant assumption. If anything, the father respected his sons companion for taking care of his son. Overall, a very good movie.

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> The homosexual theory mentioned above is refreshing, but indeed sounds ridiculous to us Chinese

Why would Chinese people think that it is ridiculous for an old man to be a homosexual?

I imagine that if the father was gay that he grew up in a time when he would have to suppress those desires and marry a woman like everybody else did.

But the whole point is moot. If Ang Lee did not write into the screenplay that this character is gay, then there are no hidden clues one way or another. The best any viewer can say is that it is unknown and undeterminable.

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regarding the "might the father have been gay" idea...

I'm no kid. Near the beginning of the movie,the father tells his son how he, too delayed getting married and ran away from it for a time. For the entire movie, I was waiting for some big reveal that the father was also gay. As the movie continued, I didn't see anything to follow up on the idea, but it did seem to be leading up to it -- the irony of why Wai Tun confided in his mother and not his father, and agonized over his father ever finding out about the truth.

I figured there was some significance to the upraised hands at the end and perhaps much in the movie placed there intentionally that I didn't understand. The father being gay, though I figured would have been spelled out for us if it were the case.

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> waiting for some big reveal that the father was also gay.

This is the Chinese culture. If the father was gay and spent 30 years married to a woman, that's just the way things are. If he came out of the closet now, he would just end up hurting a lot of people and bringing dishonor to everyone he knew.

Nope. The best idea in this case was to just stay silent and support his son through love and understanding. Which is exactly where he seemed to be heading.

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hm, I don't think there is any indication at all about the father being gay, and I'm usually very good at picking these subtext up.

Wei-tung agonizes over telling his father because he thought it would kill him (the importance of a grandchild, or rather, a grandSON, to his father, is stressed over and over and over in the movie from the beginning to the end). Seeing how violently his mild-mannered mother reacted would deter him enough. He also doesn't know his father understands English.

His father was a general, and thus has military cooks attending to him (the Zhang guy who gave the bride gold bangles and the Chen guy who owns that fancy restaurant). They are like butlers in old days. It's very common both in mainland China and Taiwan.

He ran away to escape an arranged marriage, which was a common pattern thing in his time. It was an basic act of rebellion. Lots of Chinese literatures that time and later have documented this and used this plot.

Basically the father treated Simon like a daughter-in-law he has to accept, but they are not exactly happy with him; they even bother to praise his cooking (unlike when they lavished Weiwei with praises on her cooking).

You can see the father is starting to relent at the end. He starts with attempting to do the dishes. (Simon made dinner, Baba will do the dishes). Maybe he is also accepting changes to the traditional gender roles.

Seeing the father as gay is kinda over-analyzing... by the same token, can we say the mother is gay since she's so cozy with Weiwei (a woman she never met and who deceived her?)? Or Scarlett O'Hara's father is in love with his butler?

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You can see the father is starting to relent at the end. He starts with attempting to do the dishes. (Simon made dinner, Baba will do the dishes). Maybe he is also accepting changes to the traditional gender roles.


Interesting point there.

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I thought the ending was very touching. For me the main thing was that after forming these bonds between these five people, they are now breaking up. The parents are leaving, and they is very little chance that they will all be together again as a family. The elderly parents go down that long ramp to the next world it seems. After all the lies we hear in the film, we hear two more at the end. The Mom says she is crying because she is so happy. The father says he is very happy too. If the father's final pose is one of resignation (as one person suggested), it is because he knows he will not live much longer and he will never see his grandson, or these other people that he loves and cares about. A great ending for a great story.

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you just made it seem so much sadder! *sniffs*

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For all the people who suggested the father is also gay.... you're only conjuring that because of "American Beauty".



How do you like that piece of satire?

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It is interesting also to remember that the father had the stroke probably after discovering the son's homossexuality during the fight. Probably it was a shock, but in the hospital he started to make peace with it.

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I'm not entirely sure, but I think it might have something to do with Chinese calligraphy because it was such an important part of that scene and important to the father's character. Perhaps there is a Chinese character that looks similar to that pose, or that movement? Perhaps the movement itself is something that symbolizes freedom for the father (again, going back to the calligraphy metaphor).

I have only watched it once, and I don't think that I'll watch it again. If I do I'll try to pen down some more thoughts in this regard.

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Hands up means surrender. The last shot signifies that Mr. Gao has made a compromise and accepted his son's choice, though unwillingly.

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A very subtle symbolic sign that the father has surrendered himself for a future grandchild sake. I love the idea.

BTW, I noticed that this final few seconds has been downspeeded to show that dad raises his arms slowly. I keep thinking about the 120fps and this scene.

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