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Why Is The Piano Teacher Proud After Seeing Phil Play?


The movie assumes she recalls teaching him many times from absolute beginner to expert, which is impossible.


He's my student. I'm so proud!

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She is proud cause she gave him 'one lessen' and it already shows off big time! A testament to her great 'one day' teaching. Haha she is just hiding the fact that she is flabbergasted :D

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But, he's obviously so busy that day that there's no way he'd have time to go to her house. Plus, he didn't need lessons anymore so why would he go there anyway?

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Well, that is the only real goof in the film and it's been discussed many times over the years.

He was very busy that last day. In addition to playing at the dance, Phil spent the whole day doing the broadcast, catching the falling child, rescuing the old ladies, saving Buster's life, making the dying old timer comfortable, performing chiropractic maneuvers, acquiring Wrestling Tickets.. No way would he have taken another lesson the day of the night where he killed it on stage. He was too good on the keys by then and had too much to do.

Even if he did take a lesson on the final day in the loop, from the teacher's perspective, that would have have been the first time she ever met him. Every time he took a lesson, he came in knowing more than the time before. A one hour lesson would hardly be enough time to get to know him or feel like she taught him much or take pride in his playing.


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That's far from "the only real goof" in the film, there's a whole list of them on the "goofs" page here. In fact, I came here to see if other people had noticed the same same goofs that I've noticed. For example, no matter whether Phil takes his time leaving the B&B in the morning, if he talks to people, has coffee, or whatever, or if he just rushes by everyone without talking and hurries outside and into town as he did on the third repeat of Groundhog Day, the cars going by and the people he sees and interacts with in town (Ned, etc) are always in the same place even though the time would have to vary by several minutes.

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We don't know that. Clearly there was some sort of vast force that kept Phil in a time loop for a reason not revealed. If this force or entity could do something this enormous, it could have Phil more or less forced to run into these same people also for a reason not revealed.


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Yeah, that is more of a definite goof in a way than the piano teacher. He could have had a lesson the last day, although her level of pride is definitely questionable.

I also wondered why the bartender acted like he was aware of Phil's scam with getting intel about Rita--although that may be a subtle deal (like he's secretly the "angel" or "genie" or whatever) rather than a goof.

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By that time he was a very efficient, easy to love and admire guy. The teacher was just proud to be a part of his day. I have seen old ladies like that especially in a small town like that. He definitely had time to visit her that day.

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FromaBuick8 explains it perfectly. She was proud and happy for him. It's the same way you'd be proud of seeing a friend do something very well.

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A friend yes, but a person you just met that very afternoon for a piano lesson? Maybe it was the $1000 he gave her for the lesson...

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Plothole!

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One of the many minor flaws in this movie. If you are making a time loop movie, keep it consistent.

From his perspective, she taught him how to play piano well. Fromher persoective, he is an already takented piano player who showed up in town, hung out with her for a bit, and then played at the town celebration

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He had no reason to visit her since he was already an expert at piano.

Plus, being a nice guy, he wouldn't want to kick out the little girl who was already there.

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I firmly believe that director Ramis just wanted a nice moment of closure for the characters we saw the most of. We just weren't supposed to notice her response. If she gave him a lesson that day she would have to be pretty gullible to believe that he didn't already know how to play. We know she was the one who taught him to play but she shouldn't know it. Since we know she did then her "I'm so proud" moment is acceptable to us because we like the moment.


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I have a nutty thought: this is his last day of eternal repetition (neither he nor we know that the first time around). On this last day, we see a little panorama of the things and people who have influenced him and been part of his extremely long journey to become a mensch. They don't know this, of course, but the powers that put this journey in place do; and maybe, on this last day, at this celebration, there's a little unconscious awareness on the part of some of these people, like the piano teacher, as they all prepare, unbeknownst to him, and them and us, that this is their last time with him in this cycle, because they've all done their part.

Probably not; but I kind of like it.

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I like that. In a similar vein, people should have been more thrown by the way he knew stuff about them (like the guy who wished he'd stayed in the Navy, etc.) instead of just nodding and verifying what he said.

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Maybe he went in that day, and she said, "You play well; why do you need me?"

He replied, "I'm not good enough for other people to listen to."

She stated, "Practice that song, and come play tonight at the party!" "You are good enough!"

"Aw shucks, I haven't done that before, but maybe I will." "Thank you for having confidence in my ability."

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People assume he had a lesson on his last day, but that isn't even necessarily the case in the world of time loops.

Phil could have just spoken to the teacher at the party 'You probably don't remember me, but years ago you gave me lessons that were the foundation of my love of playing piano, and I just wanted to thank you.'

He knows the teacher well enough (as he does everyone) to make the story believable. It'd only take a minute or so of his time too.

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