Lt. Gatewood is a 'sad case'.


His character is so wimpy. He had a love/hate relationship with both the Apaches and the Whites, and he never helped either side. He allowed the situation to choose his actions for him, i.e., he helped the Whites to oppress the Apaches by default, because he was an Army officer and begrudgingly felt that he should fullfil his responsibilities. If he really liked the Apache, then why didn't he help them; he could have joined them, or gone to Washington D.C., or written letters to newspapers, or anything. I agree with "Al Sieber", that he (Sieber) was more honest than Gatewood, and that Gatewood was a sad case.

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The movie is a both an oversimplification and an over-dramatization of Gatewood and his role in Arizona. Worse is the apparent loss of distinct identity between the Apaches (eg White Mountain, Chiricahua, etc.) that he worked with and were his neighbors for the majority of his career in the department.

Gatewood's formative experience was with the White Mountain Apaches, who are distinct from the sub-group to whom Geronimo belonged. He served as the chief military administrator at the Fort Apache Reservation and as the commander for the local scout detachment. Gatewood was known for fair dealing and for risking his career and standing in defending their interests. One case pitted him not only against a politically connected local businessman who was attempting to defraud the White Mountain, but also his superior, General Crook, who preferred that he drop the issue. Gatewood took a personal interest in the White Mountain, so much so that his belief that he had lost face following a dispute, caused him to submit his resignation from the position. Asked later about Gatewood's departure, many White Mountain Apache indicated no ill-will toward Gatewood and were genuinely puzzled at his reassignment. The fact is, the White Mountain Apaches still live in the White Mountains in Arizona near Fort Apache.

The Chiricahuas are a different story and a different set of dynamics, too complicated for the scope of this response. Regardless, Gatewood, despite dehabilitating rheumatism, followed Geronimo's band into Mexico in 1886. He traveled hundreds of miles over mountainous terrain and faced hostile Mexican authorities. He helped to negotiate Geronimo's surrender, oversaw Geronimo's unmolested return and ensured that his military superior, General Miles kept the terms he negotiated. This forced Miles to tell then President Cleveland to pound sand when he demanded that the train carrying Geronimo be stopped pending charges against Geronimo and his followers by civil authorities.

Say what you will about Patric's portrayal of Gatewood, but for a man that ended up crippled by his military service and died at 43 of a painful case of stomach cancer, wimp is an entirely inappropriate characterization.


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In fact, the White Mountain Apaches own Fort Apache. You need to buy a ticket from them to visit the fort.

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Ladybegood, great and accurate post!

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OP,
Gatewood could and would kick YOUR sorry civilian @$$.

"It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's living!!!"
Augustus McCrae

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It helps that the actor who played him is a handsome man. In real life we don't know how sympathetic he was.

I have met Israeli soldiers who ae conflicted in their roles in fighting Palestinian people-they hated what they had to do, but they would be disgraced if they didn't follow orders.

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Well, he did write a memoir of his experiences, from what I understand. So you could find out how sympathetic he was if you want. I haven't read it yet, though, so I couldn't say. Also, Britton Davis wrote a memoir about the events surrounding Geronimo, so that would probably have info on Gatewood as well.

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hendrith....are you putting us on in some odd manner?

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Actually contrary to the OP's opinion, Gatewood from my readings on him, sounds like a fascinating historical figure and I believe Jason Patric's low-key approach to portraying him was just right.

What's sad about "his case" ironically appears to apply to Geronimo too.

Ultimately both men who had regard and respect for each other got stitched up by the Government. Geronimo lost his land and Gatewood was rewarded with a posting out the back of beyond, which didn't ameliorate his chronic health problems (not depicted in the movie).

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