real or fake? - Fire in the Sky (1993) Discussion

[–] 06986 10 years ago

Nobody but those guys know if it is real or fake, they all passed lie detector tests and the movie is relatively close to what was supposed to have happened but the guy who claims he was abducted said the interior of the ship, aliens, and abduction experience was nothing like portrayed in the movie, he said the ship was very clean, the alien much more human like, and they communicated with him through telepathy, he said if they showed what it was really like or what he claims it was like people would have thought it was corny or completely fake.

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[–] Lawdog1527 10 years ago

They've passe... and they've also failed. When they've failed they automatically discredited the test for one reason or another.

Not that it matters. Lie detectors don't work and have been proven not to do so by the National Academy of Science. A positive or negative result has no relation to if a person telling the truth or lying.

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[–] Attillio 10 years ago

There have been several truly compelling UFO incidents over the years: Police Officer Lonnie Zamora's daylight sighting of a landed UFO with two apparent, small-sized occupants standing next to the craft in Socorro, N.M. in 1964; a number of daylight UFOs filmed by US Navy Warrant Officer and aviation cameraman Delbert Newhouse near the Great Salt Lake in Tremonton, Utah in 1952; and the night time sighting of a UFO landing with about dozen small-sized occupants exiting the craft, and apparently scooping up soil samples on a baseball field in North Hudson Park in North Bergen, N.J; just across the Hudson River from New York City by both motorist George O'Barsky and by the doorman at the nearby Stonehenge Apartment building immediately across from the park, and located along the scenic Boulevard East in that Garden State town in 1975.

As to Travis Walton's alleged UFO abduction, many longtime UFO observers believe that this account is complete balderdash and poppycock. Not only did the polygraph expert from the state of Arizona believe that Travis Walton had not been truthful during Walton's polygraph session, but it seems that Travis Walton had a criminal record prior to his alleged UFO abduction, and that Travis Walton had also experimented with drugs, making him a "somewhat" less than reliable witness.

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[–] rgibson-20 9 years ago

Fake. Do you know how many guilty people have passed "lie detector" tests and how many innocent people have failed them? Or why courts have uniformly refused to admit them as evidence? Cops use them to intimidate suspects. And they sometimes foolishly exclude guilty men because they pass the tests. Google it.

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[–] Word-Weight 9 years ago

Exactly. Lie detectors are tracking the pulse rate; anyone can feel pressure in that situation. Meanwhile, there are plenty of sociopaths who know how to control their emotions and/or not feel anything at all.

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[–] vilafire 9 years ago

Fake. Obviously and stupidly fake.

What a world we live in that people believe this tripe.

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[–] gamefreak62 9 years ago

http://occupytheory.org/travis-walton-hoax-debunked/

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[–] jazzguitarist27 8 years ago

http://occupytheory.org/travis-walton-hoax-debunked/

LOL! That hardly debunks anything...

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[–] bigal_a 7 years ago

There is the fact the Walton had taken on a big forest clearance job with an unrealistically low bid, he couldn't hire all the people he really needed, he was running rapidly out of time, after which big penalty clauses would start to kick in. Walton was facing bankruptcy.

It's at this point that the "abduction" occurred. The now-famous traumatised abductee applied immediately for the National Enquirer $100,000 prize for proof of extraterrestrials. The proof the magazine decided on was... what was it? Oh, yes, a polygraph test administered by the Arizona State Police.

And you know what? Walton failed that test, taken shortly after the alleged events. Needless to see, good ole honest Travis doesn't see why you need to be burdened with this particular fact. The later (much-publicised) PASSED polygraph was somewhat later, asked vague questions and was administered by a hypnotist, not a law enforcement officer.

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[–] Kent_Kainer 9 years ago

Fake.

That guy, his family have been ufo fans.
And what a coincidence he gets abducted after a movie about an abduction by aliens was on tv.

And then theres the general question whether aliens visited earth.
Astrophysicists say no.

Which means that any reported alien encounter was none.
Some may have seen sth, but that was nothing alien then.

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[–] Kiwi_Magic 9 years ago

I believe it.

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[–] cjcochran 9 years ago

I must ask... Are there any false prophets, preachers or fathers (church)? Are there any corrupt politicians? So.. are there alien abduction fakers?

If you answered yes to all this questions, then, there you have it. This guy maybe fake, it doesn't mean that all abductees experiences are too. If you don't believe in something doesn't mean it is not true, it just mean you don't have the evidence to acknowledge it or simply nothing will make you change your mind. It's ok but don't judge others for what they believe...

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