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The super hot naked lady video call...


Around 1:14:00(pizza hut version if that matters) John puts a minidisc in the ROM tray in his media center, then sits down to look at what seems to be his personal effects. As he picks up the ball of yarn and crochet hooks he gets an incoming video call. It is a smokin hot naked chick who seems to be ready for some very casual cybersex with her lover and is speaking like an early 90s woman, unlike every other citizen of Cock-toe's society speaks.

This scene has always irked me because it feels like it does not belong in that sex prohibiting, over sensitive world.

http://imgur.com/M6iqMRm

Thoughts?

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Yeah, i was also confused about that scene. Only way it would KINDA make sense is if it wasn't a sexual thing. Like if people didn't care if they were naked in front of close friends or partners. But that was the only time you see anything like that in the movie.

So i guess just random tits scene at the expense of the movie's internal logic.

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I think they were going for nudity is desexualised in the future thing... a bit like the co-ed, open showers in Robocop... But this movie lack's Paul Verhoeven's sensibility...

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I didn't sense that at all. Because everyone else is super covered up in the rest of the film. It is probably just a movie mistake.

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You're probably right... I haven't seen it since it first came out...

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That's Starship Troopers, not RoboCop.

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Yeah it's just gratuitous nudity, which also serves as a cheap laugh and doesn't fit with the rest of the movie.

But if we want to try to stretch out a logical explanation within the movie: just because sex with actual physical contact is outlawed, doesn't mean that nudity isn't used as a way to entice and seduce a partner. Maybe she was using some naked face time to convince her partner to come over for some headset time.

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Out of place, but in this scene the movie basically predicted people would use such tech for sexting 15-20 years before it was available, which is impressive.

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This movie was released in October 1993, which is almost 11 years after the creation of the internet, and a little over 2 years after the first website went live. I have no doubt that "sexting" has been around for as long as people have been able to communicate in text form over a network, which dates back to ARPANET in the late '60s.

Commercial SMS text messaging service for cell phones dates back to 1993.

As for video, the first commercial webcam came out in 1994, but long before that, video phone service right from the phone company (Bell System and their manufacturing arm, Western Electric) existed, though it was never widely adopted by the general public (it was more commonly used by businesses for video conferencing). This ad is from 1968:

https://i.imgur.com/q47KRBN.jpg

And this ad announcing that the service is up and running in Pittsburgh, PA is from 1970:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/AT%26T_Picturephone_Advertisement_1970.jpg

As a kid in the 1980s, I was aware of video phones (though I didn't know anyone who had one), and the idea that they would be great for seeing naked chicks was a blatantly obvious one.

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Fair enough. I appreciate the detailed reply!

I should've been more clear... I guess I meant more along the lines of "before a lot of people used it". ie Women really didn't like using the internet that much until the smartphone era.

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Funny to mention this because I've never seen discussed before & I've also always found this scene to be peculiar & out of place based on the state of the society depicted in the film.

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Also, she is talking just as a 1990's(California) woman would.

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She was probably just a young rebellious girl. The wildest girl in the whole region. Instead of going on nude beaches or flashing her tits at concerts or have sex in public at parties (that's so 2010's), she was doing cybersex, touching herself. I guess that's the hardcore thing to do in 2032 San Angeles.

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I'm certain the director said, "this movie is rated R - we got to toss some boobs in regardless."

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The more I've thought about this, I realized that technically the society was specifically against "physical" sexual contact so it is plausible that cyber sex was perfectly acceptable, if not encouraged. I mean Sandra Bullock did pretty boldly proposition Stallone for some cyber "mind-sex" after all.

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It doesn't explain why she is talking like a typical Californian 1990s woman.
No one else in the future society was depicted as talking like that. Instead, they had stilted and conservative speech.
E.g. "What seems to be your boggle"?

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Isn't SanAngeles a Cocteau paradise different from the rest of the U.S.? I mean, he's not the president of the U.S. so maybe that simply a wrong number from out of the area.

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You are opening up a whole other can of worms.

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I always thought that scene showed that not everyone was firmly under the yoke of dystopian oppression and that regular people sometimes rebelled.

She calls video chat and tells her lover "ya know, Ive been thinking_oh gosh sorry wrong number laughs"

I assumed she was giving in to the thought of having real sex and was showing her lover that shes ready. This shows the audience that this perfect society really is an illusion and peoples urges for real sexual encounters cannot be shut down completely. Its just a foreshadow to the underground people living outside the tyranny placed upon them.

If you have a couple scenes that shows someone breaking the law alittle, it helps bridge the gap between the oppressed law abiding robot citizens and the underground free people.

Even Sandra Bullock cursed and tried to hide it but was caught by the surveillance device in the room. Another tid bit to show the perfect society forced upon them is not real.

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This society is constantly surveilled.
There is no way all video calls are not monitored. They even monitor video calls of police officers doing routine duty and doing nothing wrong(Lelina's call to the warden at the beginning).
Even if it is not monitored all the time, it would be a big risk to disobey Cock-Toe. You would never know if/when you are being monitored.

Let's say your theory is correct.
It doesn't explain why she is talking like a typical Californian 1990s woman.
No one else in the future society was depicted as talking like that. Instead, they had stilted and conservative speech.
E.g. "What seems to be your boggle"?

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Maybe she was a convict that was thawed out, and was doing what Spartan attempted earlier when he was trying to seduce Huxley?

The cryo prison looks like its busy thawing people out, perhaps she was this super hot criminal lady that served her time and was released. While trying to adjust to this new society she got horny and wanted to shack up with a guy she met, but being new to this time she mis-dialed the phone and reached Spartan instead?

This answers your question and actually ties up all loose ends nicely.

Keep in mind, in all seriousness, we are being monitored NOW and people still commit crimes. Take a detailed look at the emoticon options on your smartphone. They have little emojis for a magnum gun, pills, wads of cash, a needle, criminal related type of emojis...who would use any of those emojis that wasnt texting about breaking the law? Especially the pills and needle WTF!?

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Are you serious?

Your rebuttal and absurd attempt to make your theory make any sense is to make the leap that she was let out of the cryo prison?

I can't even...

No. Just, no.

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You wanted an answer to your initial quandary and you got one. You dont like the answer thats fine. But you are responding back with an attitude which is against the general joy joy feelings of talking about this film.

There is nothing absurd about what I wrote. We are shown that the cryo prison is busy, Warden William Smithers didnt look like a slouch and seemed up to the task of doing all these cryo prison releases. When he got to Simon Phoenix's procession he remarked "Lets get this one over with quickly" this implies that he remembers how foul Phoenix was in the past and was not looking forward to this guys release but also that he processes people on the daily and wanted this one done especially quickly.

Its not leaps and bounds of logic to assume that there have been other people released from cryo prison before Spartan and Phoenix. This means there would be at least some people roaming the new era they have awoken into and are adjusting to the new lives set up for them in Cocteau's "Paradise". None of this mattered to the storyline or movie before because we are not "hit over the head" with this information as its not necessary to the main plot. However you seem to have a disdain for california valley girl types and didnt like this lady talking in a 1990's fashion, so it could be that she was not from this era and was a previous cryo reformed criminal who woke up the week before.

You ask this question and then get angry when people try to give you an answer. So why dont you tell us why she was talking like this? Would you prefer we say "Its a goof in the film" or maybe we can say "The lady spoke one sentence that didnt require any intelligent words thrown in to sound joy joy dystopian, you are overthinking this". Is there any answer you wont rebuke with frustration, anger, arrogance, general ugliness?

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I wanted a plausible answer.
Perhaps I should have included that part.
I can conceive 100s or even 1000s of reasons that are "not plausible".
Wtf...

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