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i saw a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--5aUarfBVs
does julie pees?
cause i didn't see her wet or anything,i haven't see the movie so i don't understand that scene well...
No she has an orgasm so buy the film because it's awesome!
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AWESOME??? I was sickened after viewing this film! Are you aware that in this movie the boy had just turned 16 and the girl was his younger SISTER??? I found this movie to be very disturbing and found it VERY strange that (1) This movie received so many film festival awards and (2) NOBODY complained or banned it over the obvious: it's a film about incest between two underaged children. I just don't get it!!!
shareHis sister was older and she was the eldest of all the children. And yes it was shocking, but that's how the novel was written by Ian McEwan and yet the whole thing was handled beautifully.
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Weird how everyone wants to get Hound Dog banned but these movies are more worse than the Dakota Fanning one....
shareI've never heard of Hound Dog, but The Cement Garden is a British Classic based on a novel by a British author and so no doubt outside of Hollywoods influence and critisms.
Plus it's not a sugar coated story with a happy ever after type ending and so probably wouldn't go down well in America anyway?
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I don't think it was sickening. It was innocent, and like a dream or Tom's games. Great movie!
shareYeah, I was surprised by how un-sickened I was by their relationship (is "un-sickened a word ? lol if it wasn't before I guess it is now) I was more disturbed by the parents' death and the way they were trying to cope with that. They all just seemed so lonely and it was so sad. :-\
shareGosh I could almost write a book on this very topic. Taffy, as an American, I completely agree with your view of American movie goers. If a story isn't completely wrapped up in a nice neat little package with a red ribbon attached, then a large majority get confused then angry. Personally, if the story warrants it, then endings don't need to be nice and neat. I like films that make you feel and especially think about what you've just seen.
Now, regarding the "its sick, disgusting, ect....." observation, I have to agree. Burying one's mum in the basement, trashy unkept kitchens with swarming flies collecting on filthy dishes, and engaging in incest IS disgusting. However, the way the film is presented, even I was caught up in the innocence and rather romantic aspect of Julie and Jack's relationship. I found myself thinking that it was really sweet at the end, especially Julie's reaction to Derek saying "all those times, and you pushed me away" when she looks directly at Jack.
I think its why I liked this film (granted I would have HATED the book as someone pointed out that all 3 kids molest the little sister). Its a disturbing and disgusting premise as are J & J's actions, but I found myself feeling sympathy towards them, admiring their loyalty towards one another, and appreciating where they ended up.
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"even I was caught up in the innocence and rather romantic aspect of Julie and Jack's relationship. I found myself thinking that it was really sweet at the end, especially Julie's reaction to Derek saying "all those times, and you pushed me away" when she looks directly at Jack"
What the heck is going on in your head? And you think THAT kind of trash is better than a happy film?
You know taffy, it's interesting what you wrote about British films. I agree with you in the sense that many British films aren't "sugarcoated" like many American films of today are. That's why I like a lot of foreign films because they seem to be more realistic. Foreign filmmakers on the whole seem to think that their audiences can handle a movie that doesn't end "happily ever after."
j-bridges comment earlier also struck me as being a somewhat typical American response to a movie like this. But there's something a bit curious that I wanted to mention. I've noticed that in British films and books especially that there seems to be a greater tolerance and indeed a fascination with brother-sister consensual incest. I've come across several British novels that feature this, and it's usually treated as no big deal. Curious.
Well it certainly isn't classed as the norm here and apart from "The Cement Garden" and a now defunct soap called "Brookside", I've never seen it highlighted before.
But then even "The Blue Lagoon" makes it out to be okay though doesn't it?
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The two kids in "The Blue Lagoon" were brother and sister? I didn't know that. I thought they were just friends, or children whose parents were friends, or on the same boat, or something like that.
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They were not brother and sister in Blue Lagoon.
share"j-bridges comment earlier also struck me as being a somewhat typical American response to a movie like this..."
No, j-bridges comment was a typical ignorant response. I'm American, and consider "The Cement Garden" to be one of the most poignant, beautifully crafted movies of its kind. I can assure you, bookworm111, Americans have not cornered the market on narrow-mindedness when it comes to film or literature. I am sure that every country on planet has its fair share of ignorance and closed-mindedness. I would like to think that such a mindset is not typically American....although your assumption that it is must assuredly appeal to even your sense of irony....
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Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that Fanning was a child whereas Gainesbourg was like 23?
sharefor those of you from britain,
i completly agree with you about how stupid and ignorant some of these american posters can be. believe me - everyday, i'm amazed at what some of these people say on here. however, i just want to say that not ALL americans are like that at all. i'm also pretty sure that not EVERY dumb post on imdb is from someone in the u.s. i really don't like it when people use generalizations like that. i think the ignorance in america is just more obvious because we have so many more people over here, and that the american entertainment industry relies on that kind of bull.
yes, i am somewhat of a self-hating american, but it's kind of like if somebody were to pick on your brother; you can't stand him cuz of all the dumb sh!t he says and does, but if some kid were to pick on him, you wouldn't hesitate to defend him.
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That's a good point, but it does work both ways and that's why many Brits defend their favourite British made films.
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