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Stuart couldnt play.


The creators of this film missed the entire fact that Sutcliffe could not play bass and would often have his back to the audience so they could not how off he was.

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In the 'musicians-dictionary' it is said that when one makes mistakes throughout the time the band plays, he/she can't play.
For example: A drumfill that doesn't hold the beat, shows the drummer can't play. Or a bass player that can't lock in with the drumbeat, is a bad player.

Even if it looked like Stephen as Stuart could play, because of the mistakes (as he looked at Astrid and totally flunked the last notes in the scene where Paul gets mad) he can't play!

Tough world being a musician, it is.......

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Apart from right at the beginning, no recordings exist of the Beatles with Stuart on bass. I read a passage in a book by Pete Best. He reckoned that Stuart was OK, though not in the same league as Paul. According to Paul, the bass was - and still is to an extent - the booby prize, and the bass player is "the fat guy at the back." No one wanted to play bass, including Paul. The fact that Paul didn't want to play bass indicates that he was satisfied with Stuart's bass playing.

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That's not true -- Even his sister confirm the fact that he only played like that one or two times which that times photographed by people you see) and that's it. About his bass playing, Astrid Kirchherr and Klaus Voormann said he was a good bass player. In fact, Klaus said he was really good.
And there is recordings featuring Stuart on the bass, they're on the Anthology album. The songs are "Hallelujah, I Love Her So", "You'll Be Mine", and "Cayenne".

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That's not true--

It is true. Everything I write is true. You just haven't read it properly.

My sentence says: "Apart from right at the beginning, no recordings exist of the Beatles with Stuart on bass."

So the first six words acknowledge that recordings exist with Stuart playing. I bought the Anthology when it first came out, so I heard the recordings you mention years ago.

There is no need to start an argument saying that Stuart was a good bass player. I have said that I have read a passage by Pete Best saying that Stuart was OK. I have also said that, unlike the film, Paul McCartney was not trying to take over the bass.

I have not and can not call Stuart a bad bass player, because I have never heard him play.

Kindly go and find somebody else to have a row with.

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Umm, the poster wasn't even replying to you. Speaking of not reading properly...

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To be honest, starting a sentence with, "Apart from right at the beginning" does not make sense grammatically and it's easy to see why the poster (or anyone, for that matter) might have misinterpreted what you were trying to say.

"Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it." Norman Maclean

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Grow up, boy!

You start your sentence with the words "To be honest..." I do not have to believe you are honest, and I don't. If I want instruction in English grammar, I'll ask for it.

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The exact line on Stu from the 1980's documentary "The Compleat Beatles" is... "He couldn't play a note, but he was in."

Toews pushed it wide! Two seconds and one! THE BLACKHAWKS ARE STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS! - Doc Emrick

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