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How come he was so good at killing loads of bad guys?


Seriously, Dolph Lundgren wasn't a cop himself or anything, he also wasn't as far as I'm concerned (at least it wasn't mentioned) at any point in the Army or anything, so how come he was so good at killing loads of bad guys with guns and fights? Anyone know? Thanks!

(P.S. Try not to give a simple "it's only a movie" replies!)

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Because...

it's a movie.

Seriously, what a stupid, stupid question.

Meh!

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The thing is, the "it's a movie" explanation is at times completely unhelpful (not to mention incredibly cliched) when it comes to wanting to understand the characters, plot points and movies better. I've asked deliberately in my opening thread not to say it, and here you are, doing exactly what I did NOT ask.

I mean, movies or not, even in movies (as much as we may or may not want to suspend disbelief) it is preferable that we understand how seemingly ordinary guys NOT related to the police or the army etc can be so good at killing loads of bad guys. What's wrong with wanting to understand it?

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It's in his blood I guess. Some things just come natural to people. In Santee's (or Dolph's) case it was kicking ass. How's that for an explanation?

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I have belief in the concept of simply being "born with" certain traits and abilities which, while not some kind of fate-defining force, would make you more adept at certain things by default. If Dolph had quick reflexes, good hand-eye coordination, and keen perception, why not say he was naturally adept in a gunfight?

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In this instance "it's a movie" is the most fitting explanation.

Going into his childhood or his secret Jedi training while in prison like other movies or characters could go into, would be just silly in this case.

That whole scene was like one of out a first person shooter video game. Except that when it was made, a more fitting example would be those older console shooters, from Sega Master System or Megadrive which were adaptations of popular arcade games etc.

In one of Dolph's other movies, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Brandon Lee's character says something along the lines of.. "it's like one of those video games, we just beat the first wave".

They even had Jimmy Shoeshine taunting like a video game "boss" would be. The boss being the guy you would meet at the end of the level, after getting through all of his cronies/cannon fodder.

It was the same in this Joshua Tree scene. It was like a movie and a video game all rolled into one. For the entertainment/cool factor. Nothing to do with realism, or character development or anything else. Just fun.

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"It's a movie" doesn't explain why this movie doesn't make any goddamn sense. Dolph plays an unsympathetic car smuggler who shoots a patrolman. I thought okay, now the cops gonna get the bastard. It turns out he's supposed to be a hero just because an even worse guy is after him. It's hard to root for characters who don't deserve it, especially when the situations conviniently sort themselves out just so they could win in the end. The end fight surprised me. It's so anticlimatic. (spoiler ahead) A tall 30something Swede fights two out of shape guys in their mid50s. What a hero. So much more heart went into stunt driving.

have a nice life!

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Do you mean it's hard to root for characters that do deserve it?

Even though it is not stated maybe he was trainned how to use guns, maybe he was in the Army, Marines, or some other military, or his dad was in the Military so he observed what his dad could emulate it, or his dad aught him how to shoot guns.

A angry man is a dangerous man. Like John Dillinger he would not quit.

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He didn't shoot the patrolman. Severence did. And you are also referring to the horrible alternate ending.

Meh!

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By the way folks, hehe, the OP Zombie55 who started this thread 10 years ago was ME, yes!

And heh, was it really ever mentioned as to how Lundgren's character was so good at asskicking here?

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Also, the film's title is "ARMY of One", could this also be a clue to the fact that maybe the main character played by Dolph used to be in the - army?

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