were the ratings low and they hoped he'd bring over some TNG fans? did it work? was it always going to be Worf or did they consider bringing another TNG regular or recurring character?
I can't speak for the rest of it, but it seems like they had some long-term plans for the Klingons from the start, so bringing on Worf made more sense than any of the others. (Well, other than O'Brien who was already there.)
shareKerryedavis is spot on.
They knew that they wanted to continue and even expand on the Klingons as a key factor in the show. Given that Gowron was already there. By bringing Worf on they had a direct connection to the Klingons right on the station.
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great points
do you guys know how much of an effect Worf had on the series once he joined? whether it's the ratings increased or if the writing or acting improved
Ratings might have improved in part because of getting the Klingons more involved, and having Worf on made that easier. But that's not really the same as saying the writing or acting quality improved separately.
sharedo you guys know how much of an effect Worf had on the series once he joined? whether it's the ratings increased or if the writing or acting improvedAs a matter of fact, yes I do know how much of an effect Worf had! He improved everything!
joe you have to admit he wasn't a badass, or that much of a loner on TNG. They certainly improved Worf a whole once he got to DS9. But he was interesting character to begin with, they just explored the possibilities. Makes me wonder they could have done to Geordi or Troi on DS9.
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joe you have to admit he wasn't a badass, or that much of a loner on TNG. They certainly improved Worf a whole once he got to DS9.Well, honestly, I can't speak with any expertise on the subject as I probably haven't watched even 10% of TNG episodes. On the other hand, a lot of the TNG's that I have watched were episodes I specifically sought out because they featured Worf. I don't know about him being a loner and all that, but among the rather 'blah' Enterprise crew he was the MOST badass. ...like the time where he impales that Klingon to the floor with his batleth thingie...like a butterfly in a display case.
The "impaling" thing was from TNG, and there were a few other examples later on, perhaps after Gene Roddenberry was no longer stopping them. And Worf became even more "badass" on DS9. Including looking more like the other Klingons, instead of rather similar to the TOS version but with a forehead ridge.
shareI really don't recall any differences in how Worf looked in the last couple of seasons of TNG compared to how he looked in DS9. I even looked up photos of him during this different time periods. Care to elaborate?
shareI meant more early on for Worf on TNG, but even later on TNG and the whole time on DS9, he didn't really look very similar to other Klingons such as Lursa and B'Etor, or Kang, Kor, and Koloth when they appeared on DS9.
shareOf course Worf looks similar to the other Klingons. The only difference is that his eyebrows are not as distinctive or bushy as most others and HE is the rare Klingon with straight hair...along with the Klingon prosecutor from Season 4 and his son, Alexander.
The bridge crew of the Rotarran were a more diverse looking bunch of Klingons!
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Great post
shareBecause it seemed to be a good idea at the time? (And it did turn out to be great idea!)
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More than likely; the desperation was real! Too bad Dorn hasn't been able to find something else to do; talk about "type-cast!"
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Well, for whatever reason, I'm glad he came onboard.
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Wolf improves a whole lot when he joins DS9. His character grew leaps and bounds. I liked him on TNG, I loved him on DS9.
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Yes. I loved it when in the first episode he appeared in, he told Kira (who was wearing some kind of medieval outfit from being in the holodeck), "nice hat".
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I remember reading a www.cracked.com article years ago (I forgot the title) about famous TV characters who don't live out the tropes they supposedly represent. For example, George Costanza was supposed to be the loser of the group, but he had something like 43 girlfriends throughout the series, many of whom seemed madly in love with him. I think Worf (as portrayed on TNG) was number one on the list. Shows often give the audience an idea of the threat a new enemy poses by having them effortlessly bring down the toughest regular character. Apparently, Worf was used for this so often in TNG you only ever saw him get his ass handed to him. I think anyone who'd watched DS9 first would've gotten the message much more clearly.
shareExcellent point
sharehttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect
Which inevitably leads to...
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BadassDecay