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all 3 were at fault

posted 13 years ago by abdool3
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some are staunch betty supporters, some are staunch dan and linda supporters.....why bother debating? they all acted badly as I said in a post a few years ago. dan was manipulative and deceitful and used linda to taunt betty. linda enjoyed mocking a person she knew was mentally unstable. Sending Betty crinkle cremes and nasty notes was pointless; she already had Dan. Dan must have informed her about Betty driving her car through his front door and ruining his clothes- first by burning them, and then by ruining them with a Boston creme pie. Why would Linda not want to stay away from this woman? What did Linda have to gain from being snide? Dan's encouragement helped fuel the situation. Betty was at fault for hurting her children; they became her pawns and her victims. Dan and Betty fed off each other; they goaded each other ruthlessly and sought revenge at any cost. They both used their children in unspeakable ways. Dan just hired babysitters to take care of the kids and would go on vacations with Linda and leave no money and food in the house.He didnt want to be a full time father; he just didnt want Betty to have the kids. Betty should have listned when her son cried and told her to stop leaving nasty messages on the answering machine. Those were the tears of a hurt child who did not deserve to get caught up in the sick game of the people he loved and who were supposed to love him.

[–] meerschweinchen_freunde 13 years ago

I read Until the Twelfth of Never by Bella Stumbo and my thoughts after reading the book was that Dan and Betty should have never gotten married in the first place.

[–] Delainadee 13 years ago

Yes, all of them engaged in deplorable behavior. But only one of them pulled the trigger.

[–] bron-tay 11 years ago

THIS. They should never have married. The trouble is, once people get into a toxic relationship like this, they stay in because each wants the "last word." (Also because some love drew them together once.)

I blame both of them for staying in the marriage and engaging in all the mutual abuse, and I blame Linda for her behavior.

That said, Betty should not have pulled the trigger. She had herself to blame for her bad decision in entering and staying in a mutually toxic relationship. She should have split from the bastard early in life and forged a career. She'd probably be the Secretary of Education by now, and she'd have SAT scores up by 10 points nationwide!

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[–] ritamilo 11 years ago

The marriage was a mistake from the minute they stood at the altar taking their vows.

Betty was brought up a traditionally Italian Catholic girl: I know that scenario well because that's how I was raised, a child of the 1950's.

I was immature when I married at the age of 22 (my parents were in their 60's and my mother's selling point was that she wanted to see her grandchildren before she died); my husband is the same age I am (59 this year), and we both knew we were not quite ready for marriage.

But - our marriage has worked well, and I think it's because we understood each other well enough to know we needed patience and that we needed to grow together. It took a lot of hard work, and there of course have been high and low points, but the underlying love has always been there.

I don't think Betty or Dan truly loved the other. Children of our (mine and theirs) were raised to believe that if you had sex without being married, it would be a grievous sin. So many of us from that era have had major issues with the slowly changing Church. But I don't think either Dan or Betty was marriage material at the time of their wedding.

Just imagine if they had waited a bit longer - maybe none of this would ever have happened.

I just cannot feel sympathy for Betty. When I've read the books about this crime, it always seems as though nothing was ever enough for her and that while Dan tried to destroy her, she was not blameless either. I think it was the perks of being the wife of a wealthy successful lawyer that she loved, not Dan.

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[–] Hoohawnaynay 13 years ago

I agree with Syd Loves Scott...his assessment is pretty accurate.

I don't have much sympathy for an Attorney who screws over his wife of 20 years. Some bimbo secretary who can't even type? OY VEY!

Betty is a narcisist but she is the most sympathetic in this whole thing.

[–] simba122504 12 years ago

No, she's not.

Clark's destiny = Superman, Lex Luthor & Lois Lane.

[–] domincanredangel 10 years ago

Watchin'again tonight,love it...

Hoohaw ur right...

So happy i've been able last week to record it both parts,to re-watch,1000x this long six months of winter coming up soon,because i LOVE it THAT much.BEST movie"true story EVER, and on lifetime"well one of the top three ever made for tv. love it so much.
and your right on such about LINDA KOLKENA the bimbo part yep. :funny your right when the LOYAL long time employee legal secretary of dan goes,yea i know,"SHE CAN'T TYPE!" rofl still 1 of the most funniest scenes in all of television EVERway too funnie.

Betty sure was a lil bit um feasibly"too spoiled"at times,some say,narcissistic however, i think she has a right to be or HAD a right to after geez:
like NINE pregnancies within her marriage, lost multiple & raise the other 2 girls older,then her baby boys Rhett (luv the name!) and her oldest boy Dan Jr. etc. work at times three to four jobs,or 5? she deserve what she was EXPECTIN'from danny boy,
meaning imo, not at all NARCISSISTIC to me,premise on she did so much and deserve the GREAT LIFE,suburbia she was entitle to after DAN was really imo (would have not been able to do first the med$$$ school thing,then later procure a J.D.(juris doctor)in law, no way,she made all this imo happen for her.So she was entitle to it all just
AS MUCH AS DAN imo anyhow.She was not at all narcissist.
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Sadly he didn't THINK she would have the last word did he.He sure did NOT see this coming AT ALL after putting her thru complete hell.

I have no pity for DAN and LINDA at ALL zero,nada....rip YES. pero(but)your right,
BETT is the 1 who deserve yep,sympathy.I do agree on that.Going back to watch night all!

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[–] kndykss 11 years ago

Betty could've stopped.( If they were all 3 @ fault which I don't believe) She could've thought about her children if no one else. She was far from the perfect mother. You don't abandon your children on their father's doorstep just to spite him. She abusive to them physcially as well.--- She was bitter woman who wanted EVERYONE to pay in some way. Linda and Dan were her ultimate targets but look at the misery she caused her own children - She was selfish - she put her own misery above being a good parent. Sorry I have no sympathy for her at all. Dan and Linda acted out in response to betty's harrassment. was it right? of course not but, everyone has a boiling point. The difference is they maintained self control. They didn't drive to her house in the middle of the night and ambush her ......

[–] hodie 11 years ago

I'm rereading Until The Twelfth of Never (Amazon has it on Kindle now) and I agree, all three were at fault.
Only one pulled the trigger, but she went to prison and was recently denied parole. I doubt she's getting out in my lifetime.

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[–] Michelle_Johnson101 11 years ago

I too read the Twelfth of Never and it is a very true statement that "All Three were at Fault" Period. Also, Whether you the woman who was left, the mistress, or the husband playing around, it doesn't matter, these situations are painfull from all angles. When these situations involve lots of money, yes it could be deadly. Money changes everyone.

[–] madman58 11 years ago

i agree with what you said about UNTIL THE TWELFTH OF NEVER. After reading it this past weekend i can see how empty the t.v. movie really was. biblical in per portion,greed,lust, adultery, gluttony and more. i feel NO empathy for Linda.she put herself right in the midst of all of that and LASTLY i think LARRY was a real snake! he didn't even want dans kids. just his money. GREAT BOOK.

[–] ritamilo 10 years ago

The Stumbo book, Until the Twelfth of Never seems to have become the definitive work on this subject.

Stumbo died in 2002 however, the publishers in accordance with Stumbo's estate have released an updated version of the original title with the addendum title: "Should Betty Broderick Ever Go Free?" and it has additions discussing the 2010 parole hearing in which Betty's request for parole was denied.

Her 4 children, Larry Broderick and Maggie Kolkena Seats were present, and 2 of the children argued against their mother's receiving parole and we know what Larry and Maggie wanted.

I honestly don't think she ever can be rehabilitated enough for parole consideration. It's written in the book that she still speaks of Dan and Linda as though they are still alive and still out to get her. But the point is that she absolutely refuses to believe that she should feel any remorse whatsoever.

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[–] JCrewgirl 11 years ago

I agree. Betty should have just hit him where it hurt (In alimony and child support) and left it at that.

"Don't they know they're making love to one already dead?!"

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[–] domincanredangel 10 years ago

yep.
lol
that's how i see it JC,
sure do.
SMH.
I however blame in order:
1.) DAN BRODERICK RIP.he still didn't deserve to be blasted in his back while in bed,with the new girl/wife asleep.

2.)LINDA for comin'into betty and dan life,instead of finding a single man,
but as dan she did not deserve to be in cold blood,helpless murdered,
like that.
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Last but not least: BETTY BRODERICK,
( even if i support) as many on FB betty page,do support her getting out one day in her sixties,we hope 1 day,
i feel if she had just said,ok um i m done with your father; and immediately i will get some help since i was so IN LOVE with the ba---stard.
I wish she had also said: HE IS SO NOT WORTH IT...
"I will also get counseling to help me get OVER This loser,who left me for the Tall Blonde homewrecker,who look like me in my younger years,and i have my beautiful children and a hefty per month alimony, a handsome friend name Jerry
who like me so i will be fine.
(or at least we see this in the movie)the dark hair guy."

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I wish Linda,did not meet dan,but knowing how betty was, a ticking time bomb it would have still feasibly escalated premise on just how dan was treating her imo
so badly.
People have to watch who we meet en vida,as i type watching this INCREDIBLE true story again on DVR,i think wow,ONLY IF... But we know it is way too late for dan and also the mistress-turned-wife,Linda.both did not imo believe a lady like Betty will blast them with a gun when both 'least' expected it or i am sure both would have been more RESPECTFUL/not nasty all mean to her.(Kids admit both dad and linda were so evil/mean to their mother)
THAT is something i can't condone on either side.

Too late now.Sad story ...But there are always signs,as my parents happily married for almost sixty years adage. DAN CHOSE to ignore "each 1 of them,and so did Linda.

adios

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[–] gretakendalljosh 8 years ago

DominicanRedAngel.God bless ur folks. As i watch again tonight part 1 on LMN. and late night part 2(Never sik of this incredible true-story) i agree with you on all counts.

SAD how though DAN imo was more at fault.He drove her to it. Simple as that. Some men think you're able to creep and cheat on a great lady in your life and you will get away with it. Can't treat people like that.You just can't.

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