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Was this the last great Western??


I say yes.

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The Assassination of Jesse James and “Deadwood” qualify as great westerns for me.

Also the likes of True Grit, Open Range, 3:10 to Yuma, Django Unchained and the mini series “Hatfield and McCoys” were all very good imo.

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THIS^^^

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Original 3:10 to Yuma.

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i have to give this one another look

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Most of those were terrible. Especially Open Range.

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SERIOUSLY...THOSE ARE ALL QUALITY WESTERN PICTURES...

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Costner can’t act his way out of a paper bag

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THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT MY OPINION...

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I will have to politely disagree. He's not as good as Brad Douriff, but he's done well with his range. I think he was good in Silverado, Mr. Smith, Prince of thieves (no english accent for a good reason), Dances with Wolves, and Field of dreams.

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A PERFECT WORLD IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

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Good call.

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Man of steel wasn't great. Kevin Costner still had the right demeanor for Johnathan Kent.

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YES!...ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS,OF WHICH THERE WERE FEW.

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He was good in those movies. But not in Open Range.

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I LIKED OPEN RANGE...OH WELL...MORE COPIES FOR ME TO HOARD.

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This is a true statement. My wife says the only movie of his she likes is "Field of Dreams."

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Costner was really good in “Hatfield and McCoys”

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Yeah Open range was terrible and boring; appaloosa was worse. Assassination of Jesse James was pretentious garbage that went on way too long. That movie should have been an hour shorter, there was not nearly enough interesting material to justify that runtime. True Grit was an okay remake; but I am partial to The Duke; so I prefer the original but that might be a subjective bias and not a fair objective judgement of quality. 3:10 to Yuma I did not like the original but the remake had Crowe and Bale (and Ben Foster); that is a lot of on screen presence and I found the remake more interesting for it.

Django Unchained was a good film (not Tarantino's best) but I would not really call that a western. It had some western elements sure; but that was more of a southern pre-civil war film; more akin to something like 12 years a slave than a western like Unforgiven or other Wayne/Eastwood westerns.

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Jeez, I love Open Range. Probably my favorite of all the movies you've mentioned, with the possible exception of The Hateful Eight, which I also think is superb.

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"Open Range" was the last great western.

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I wouldn't put Django Unchained in the Western category. It was some weird Tarantino creation that is hard to pigeonhole into a traditional genre. 3:10 to Yuma was a good movie, but not a great movie. Assassination of Jesse James has its fans, but I am not among them. Hatfields and McCoys was great, but it was a series, not a movie. Agree with Open Range and True Grit. So for me, True Grit (2010) the last great western movie.

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It certainly was great and better than anything that's followed.

Clint is a fantastic Director... and a fabulous actor. I love all of the films he has directed, he's a genius.

Tarantino's Hateful 8 was ok but not great but he may come back to the Western genre and direct something great later...

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It was good, I'm not sure it is really what I would call great. I know I really liked it when it first came out, but on watching it again it really wasn't great, I think people thought it was great because people that enjoy westerns hadn't had any good or bad westerns in a long time.

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No. The last great Western was in 1952.

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High Noon??

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Yep.

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The Searchers (1956) is my favorite.

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It's a favourite of mine. But not the favourite.

Even "Red River" comes a (close) second to "High Noon", for me.

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The author of 'the searchers' wrote 'the unforgiven'.

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High Noon is one of my favorites

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I enjoyed High Noon, but the plot is way too simple for me to be a truly Great Western. It's more like an episode of Bonanza than anything else.

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NO LOVE FOR THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN OR THE WILD BUNCH???

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two of my favorites.

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The Magnificent Seven is my favorite.

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I think High Noon is the best Western film ever made, but not the last great one.

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I didn't care for it.

It was an "anti-western" in that the message was focused on that.

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Wow what a loser. Go watch Avengers you uneducated troglodyte.

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JESUS...

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It was clearly an anti-violence film criticizing his famous Italian westerns, which I love.

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The movie was not anti violence that is a extremely shallow take. Please read a book get some knowledge.

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Sure it is.

The young guy keeps getting taught how gross being a gun fighter is. At one point Eastwood said, "Remember that time I shot the guy and his teeth went through the back of his head" and then at the end he learns it's not all it's cracked up to be.

So, all the previous movies made it look cool to be a gun fighter and this one had the opposite message.

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Definition of anti-violence. : acting against or opposing violence. Yeah when Munny kills everyone at the end it really solidifies this.

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Presenting brutal violence is a way to promote anti-violence.

That was actually said by PLATO thousands of years ago. They do it in war movies all the time. You see some guy with his legs blown off thrashing around, and you don't want to be there.

Watch the movie again and notice what I'm saying.

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If the intent was to simply cause people to become anti-gun anti-violent loons then it was a complete failure... I kept my guns, bought a few more since I saw the movie and would have no qualms about killing someone that I thought I needed to kill... and I wouldn't care if I gut shot him and had listen to him whimper like a dog while he died. So if it was anti-violent it didn't work.

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Maybe the last Western that's worthy of being called a classic.

There have been some really good ones since then, but nothing quite as great as Unforgiven.

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Agreed.

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Me too.

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Yes

Although Gold (2013) and The Homesman (2014) albeit different are pretty great Westerns.

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