There seems to be 2 sex scenes in the movie and both of them are excessively long.
Considering that this film isn't a mere entertainment or romance, these long sex scenes seems irrelevant.
While the film director could have just suggested the intercourse, why did he do that?
Does anyone has explaination for this?
p.s. I have no problem with seeing those stuff in a movie. In fact, I like it, but just out of curiosity, I'm asking you guys.
The original American release had a shortened and toned-down version of the sex scenes. Thankfully I was able to see the original the second time I watched this movie. This film has a lot of raw energy and violence and tension. The sex scenes fit in well with the rest of it since what they are doing could be described as copulating in a rather rough manner. It just fits, and I have nothing bad to say about a graphic sex scene, even if it doesn't "fit the movie".
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The scenes would be toned down for American audiences as America ia a nation founded by prudes. Prudes who fled England etc. because of all the freaky European sex going on.
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shareYou know, I don't usually comment about such stupid comments but this really cracked me up - thanks for the laugh!
Yes, I'm an American, and we were founded by prudes, but very smart prudes - now all the smart prudes are gone and America is stupid <sigh>
What hump?
If it wasnt for America in WW2 (bonsaisamurai), Europe would be part of Deutschland. You owe us prudes eternally.....
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As a European I know its the Russians I should be thanking, and yes I am very grateful to them. As for Americans, we'll yeah you guys did land on the French beaches just about when it was clear Germany was going to lose the war. So sure thanks for cleaning up the beach, very kind of you.
shareRussians being supplied by American trucks from Detroit and American grain from the Mid-west running on British petrol from Iranian oil against a Wehrmacht constantly in short supply because of American and British strategic bombing. All of the Allies were indispensable to the defeat of Nazi Germany, and only the Americans were to the defeat of Imperial Japan. Most Europeans seem to know their history a lot more than you do.
shareRussians being supplied by American trucks from Detroit and American grain from the Mid-west running on British petrol from Iranian oil against a Wehrmacht constantly in short supply because of American and British strategic bombing. All of the Allies were indispensable to the defeat of Nazi Germany, and only the Americans were to the defeat of Imperial Japan. Most Europeans seem to know their history a lot more than you do.
shareAs a European I know its the Russians I should be thanking, and yes I am very grateful to them. As for Americans, we'll yeah you guys did land on the French beaches just about when it was clear Germany was going to lose the war. So sure thanks for cleaning up the beach, very kind of you.
shareWay to project a major stereotype, RiverHockey. You dumbass.
shareAllthough this conversation goes towards politics instead of the film, you could almost see it coming.
If it hadn't been for Europe, your country wouldn't exist, would it? So, who owes who? Hmm?
Let's leave this stupid debate and talk about the movie instead.. ok? ok!
German Goo Girls?
shareWill you ever get tired of nagging about WWII? That was almost 70 years ago. Who gives a *beep* what your ancestors did then?
shareAmerica "caused" the (global) Great Depression, which was rather instrumental in making national socialism an actual political force.
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@RiverHockey
America didn't even fight in WW2 until after everything happened with Japan and USA. In fact when Hitler was on the rampage America decided not to fight. Citizens and Govt. wanted to stay neutral and did so.
So, to be honest Europe don't owe you a thing. That's just the American in you thinking everybody should bow down to you.
Canada on the other hand declared war on Germany 10th of September 1939. USA stayed neutral until December 1941. USA didn't even give a *beep* about what was happening in Europe.
Who would have thought Canadian's had more balls the US. We also don't going around demanding respect for our actions in WW2 like you're trying to do right now.
America has been in some sort of war for 93% of the it's time, and of course the one war worth fighting for out of all those wars is the one America decided to stay neutral for.
It's not that we're prudes, it's just that all the prudes haven't died off yet.
shareLOL! Funny.
Nothing to lose but our chains, we have a world to win
not true ,we developed the porn industry we're are not at all prude we love sex i think maybe even more so then the europeans .We're just not as sophisticated when it comes to handling the subject in film .
shareI don't think this is entirely accurate. I have both the original American and Australian DVD releases. Surprisingly the print that has the first sex scene cropped in close to obscure the body parts is the Australian release, while the American release has the first sex scene entirely uncropped, so the opposite of what you're writing.
Incidentally I saw a very early print of the film at a festival in Canada prior to its general release, and the second sex scene with Davey and Gabe was even longer and more graphic than in any subsequent DVD release. There were very few edits, just one long sex scene that was obviously unsimulated as you could see insertion. That scene was definitely gratuitous, and I remember the entire audience shifting rather uncomfortably wishing the scene would be over sooner than later.
why suggest something? What's the point of it? This movie tries to show realism. Hell when I have sex I don't just take 2 minutes and focus on me holding hands with my g/f.
Realism people. This is no porno they don't show penetration of any kind they show people having sex. It's normal.
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It's because it's Australian not American. I am from Melbourne, Australia and when this film came out it was definetly met with a great deal of controversy, but none of it was to do with the sex senes, it was the sympathetic portrayal of racist skinnheads and the graphic violence that realy upset people. We are alot more relaxed about nudity and/or sex here in Australia compared to America and other countries and to be honest I think it's alot more sensible to be worried about the voilence and racisim in the film rather than the relatively tame sex scenes.
I agree with Jedi Tyler. I am also Australian and know that Australian films generally contain alot of sex or sexual references. Australia is a very arthouse film based country and follows European countries more than America. Plus Australia has a really lax rating system and Australian films are made for the Australian market. They can get away with much more than American films can or even British films.
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It's a skinhead thing, drinking, sex and violence
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i think it helps add a sense of powerful filth to the mood of the film.
dont get me wrong, im not saying sex is filth, but it does help create the mood.
as previously mentioned, it goes with the drinking and the violence and the swearing etc. helps show the distorted mentality i guess.
they were definately scenes required in this film in my opinion.
I think the two scenes serve to show how differently Hando and Davey feel about Gabe as a person. Hando treats her more roughly and sees her as a bit of fun, whereas Davey is a bit more caring and sensitive, and obviously thinks of Gabe as a long term relationship.
"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'" - Spinal Tap
I think you're right...
shareThe sex scenes definitely were more explicit than what they have in American cinema. I agree with Dextor fenster that it did add filth with the fighting and swearing. But, I would have left it out of the movie if I were the director because it does not contribute to the plot of the movie. Two movies that do recquire sex for the plot are Last Tango in Paris and Oldboy.
sharewhy does it not contribute to the movie?
1st it's NOT filth. Why the heck is sex filth? It's a good thing.
2nd it adds to the realism of the film. If you have sex do you go all lovey dovey and just look at your partners hand while playing soft music in the background? I dunno about you but I tend to enjoy sex. Visually, physically and emotionally. Sex is about having fun (unless you're very religious). So why not show them having fun. It's also an important part of the story too as it defines a point in the relationships.
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Dude, you missed my point.
1. I was responding to a previous post who said that the sex provides a somewhat filthy feeling b/c it adds on with the violence, swearing, and gangs.
2. So should a Disney film show sex just because they have to show the realism of the characters parents? You do make a good point about the relationships though.
I guess my biggest problem is that too many of the characaters/actors were skanks. If they had attractive people, I wouldn't be complaining.
if a Disney movie wants to show a story about real life why not show a sex scene if the story demands it. I'm not saying to put sex in everymovie but if it adds to it why not. And it did in Romper Stomper.
and about the actors.. Well not all people in real life are pretty either.
On the movie though: Gabe was cute though. I'd do her.
Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look realy un-evolved? - Bill Hicks
"if a Disney movie wants to show a story about real life why not show a sex scene if the story demands it."
Are you serious?
yes. then again we all know Disney would never make a movie about real life now would they?
Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look realy un-evolved? - Bill Hicks
You're one sick fu ck if you would let a 5 year old watch a sex scene. I hope that you never have kids. I'm pretty sure that it's against the law if you do allow your kids to watch porn.
shareread my comments carefully before you call someone sick. And you do know that disney makes other movies besides cartoons right? And that for example Miramax is part of Disney?
As for kids. Way ahead of you. I don't want them.
Oh and porn. You do know what that is right? Cause those sex scenes in Romper Stomper aren't porn.
Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look realy un-evolved? - Bill Hicks
I was exaggerating with the porn statement.
sharethis film is not meant to be an attractive glossy piece of cinema. It is supposed to be gritty and deals with issues that would not be nearly as hard hitting if there were scenes of attractive sex and action movie style violence.
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all social animals have sex for fun
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I would hardly consider this movie as one that has too much sex. Far from it in fact.
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"It's a skinhead thing, drinking, sex and violence"
you forgot one thing - music
everybody has sex.whats the big deal?
shareThe movie was made to be controversial, to make people sit up and think about the subject. I am sure that if you were to experience life first hand as a skinhead you would realise the movie needed to be graphic. I think the point you are making is why make the sex scenes last aslong as hey did, not thatthey actually exist in the movie. Someone later in the thread hits the nail on the head when they say the sex scenes provide a sense of how the two guys treat Gabe. I think the movie is very powerful, and if it is cut for the American market, then that is a shame. I have the uncut Australian version, and it is very thought provoking. The long sex scenes exist to show the powerful aspect of the lifestyle.
shareI thought that one of the sex scenes was one of the best parts of the movie, when Hando is railing gabe while Davey is working out with the heavy bag, it shows a divide in the friendship that helps to establish the conflict.
sharetwo reasons for the long sex scene.....
1) the plot was completely dependent on it as the tension between the two male leads all sprang from Gabe, basically...it was necessary to show that Hando was just screwing her while the other guy actually cared about her and "made love " to her tenderly.
2)I am not really much of a fan of this movie, and I think it was to fill space. When you have a simple enough story and need to expand a screenplay to feature length, what better way than a long sex scene, or a long scene of being chased by Asian kids perhaps? It "supposedly" adds tension and fills up minutes too. Stroke of genius, don'tcha think?
It sucked that she was so ugly
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The first sex scene with Hando was actually very symbolic the way he was boning her from behind into the Nazi banner on the wall.
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shareWatch more Australian films. I can't speak for the director, but I know as an Australian that we tend to be quite frank and open about things such as sex and swearing. And violence is always good. We are not a censored society, so our films tend to show that. We don't have a studio system in Australia and we don't have this feeling that we need to make films that appeal to the mass audience and younger people (though we don't even really censor sex and swearing in a lot of our films that are allowed to be viewed by younger audiences). We make films more for art than money. Because frankly nowadays we can't make too much money with our films.
shareI'm an Australian too, Harvesterone - are you sure we're more 'frank and open'? For example, when it comes to censorship, X-rated material is actually banned in all states. (But not in Canberra - like Washington DC, it's the national capital and federal territory, where no laws banning X-rated films were ever passed, so thanks to that loophole you can get them from there via mail-order.) And don't you remember the hoo-hah over the banning of the importation of 'Baise-Moi' and 'Ken Park'?
In any case, there's one big problem with Australian films of recent years - no-one wants to see them! Not only do they not 'appeal to the mass audience and younger people', they don't appeal to *anyone* at all. I don't think there's anything in Australian films now that you won't find in American indy (as opposed to big studio) films. Romper Stomper was a great film, but who's been excited over any Aussie film lately?
I thought that "Undead" was a good Australian film.
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"Buy the ticket, take the ride!" -Hunter S. Thompson
Wolf Creek wasn't so bad, either. It used to annoy me when movies would pretend to be dispensing factual information. There are always tons of idjuts who accept anything they hear at face value asking you, "Hey- did you know that really happened"!?
I used to try and correct these people to no avail, thus my annoyance... but then I realized things like this make for great idiot detectors, so now I just smile, nod and remember.