Only 5.4?????


How can this movie only get a 5.4 rating??

This is one of De Palma´s best and it´s obviously, that most of the people that rated it low, claim it didn´t make sense. Well watch it again and try to use your eyes and brain this time.

It is one of the most underrated films I´ve ever seen. Along with "Jacob´s ladder".

De Palma really proves he´s a master with this one. The long one take scene on the police station is brilliant and the film features one of the creepiest scenes I´ve ever seen. The scene where Bauer´s wife´s in a coma.

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But that´s just it. I´ve seen the movie 3 times and I don´t find it that confusing. The only thing I can see which people might find confusing is the dream sequences, as people might start to question wether or not everything they just watched really took place. But besides the incident where Davidovich dreams that her body is being punctured by the spear, everything takes place just as we see it.

Well anyways, like I said. If anybody has a problem with the plot in this movie, I will be happy to assist. Because I don´t know if people realize, what they´re missing by rejecting this movie.

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I agree with "forceoffive". This movie deserves much more...

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I am a Brian De Palma fan, but I found this movie to be a waste of time and 6 bucks from Wal-Mart. The mediocre acting was the least of this film's problems. The plot, well where was it??? The movie DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AND I USED MY EYES AND BRAINS, anyway, I am sure I have offended some people out there, including the John Lithgow fan site, lol. Well sorry for that but the MOVIE OFFENDED ME. I mean I had high expectations for a Brain De Palma film, but was shown that even legendary directors, and actors, can make mistakes too. Nice to know that we are all human. Ultimately this film is about a psycho with split personalities. Do not watch this movie, rent Hide and Seek, if you want to see a good movie with a scitzo in it. Thanks for reading.
Sincerely,
Justin Norris

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It was lucky to get 5.4 - this is one of the most awful films I've ever seen. It has almost no credibility. It's poorly scripted, seriously miscast across the board and suffers further from inappropriate directorial flourishes (enough slo-mo already) and acting that is so bad it's actually just bad (as opposed to being unintentionally funny). It would have helped if anyone involved knew how poeople who suffer from real split personalities behave. This film was billed in my TV guide as a comic thriller. Er...really? No-one seems to know what's going on or what they're doing on set and I'm still wondering why I sat through it.

Cheers.

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Yeah ok, John Lithgow miscast as a psycho? Whatever.

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This movie made perfect sence, it was just utterly crap.

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i LOVE this film! I've seen all of DePalma's films and it's one of my favorites of his. This is my DePalma list:

1. Carrie
2. Carlito's Way
3. Blow Out
4. Dressed to Kill
5. Sisters
6. Untouchables
7. Scarface
8. Raising Cain
9. Body Double
10.Casualties of War
11.Obsession
12.Snake Eyes
13.Femme Fatale
14.Phantom of paradise
15.Mission Impossible
16.The Fury
17.Mission to Mars
18.Bonfire of the vanities
19.Greetings
20.Wise Guys
21.hi, Mom
22.Home Movies
23.Get to know your rabbit

"DAMN ALL THESE REMAKES TO HELL!" - me

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Look, people say DePalma's all-style, no substance, he steals right and left, his films are cold, misoginistic.

That may all be true.

But at least he HAS some style(or at least used to).

Most Hollywood films could have been made by any number of directors. DePalma's have his stamp(or atleast they used to).

I think Raising Cain is good fun. The dream sequence is great. He ups the ante with a dream about a dream(!)

And the coma scene is one of the creepiest scenes I've seen(and no gore!)

It doesn't all make perfect sense? Maybe not. It's a MOVIE.

Bush's budget doesn't make sense(that's why this country is in more debt than ever). That's REAL life. Worry about that.

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I'll just say one thing:

THIS MOVIE SUCKS!!

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It's a very good, bizarre movie. It deserves a higher rating.

"Welcome to Hollywood, Peter!"
"But this is Italy........"
"Hollywood is a state of mind!"

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I think the movie is very under-rated. While it is by no means De Palma's best, it is an effective thriller and it does make sense! (For those who claim it does not, what specifically seems to be confusing you?) The performances are excellent, particularly Lithgow and the female psychologist. Some scenes are very well put together and others are very atmospheric. Elements of the plot are unexpected and do keep the viewer guessing.

I think that many people go into this movie familiar with its very poor reputation and then either expect it to be bad or attempt to match the poor reviews onto what they see. It is a sort of accepted wisdom, I suppose (just as it is accepted wisdom that he is completely unoriginal and steals all his best shots). Unfortunately, this is a common complaint in De Palma's filmography: many people seem to judge and pre-judge his movies or judge him, the man, rather than his movies (a good case in point is The Black Dahlia a very under-rated movie that was, on the whole, judged prior to release (just look at the number of pre-release posts on IMDB lambasting the casting and his direction, etc, etc). If you look at many of the negative reviews they seem to judge the movie on how well it matched the reviewer's expectations of what they thought it was going to be, rather than reviewing what the movie actually was).

I really don't see how it can be claimed that he is not a technically brilliant director. Within Raising Cain he brilliantly creates an atmosphere and consistently provokes the viewer and subverts their expectations. Some of the shots are wonderful - particularly the long tracking shot in the police station (I particularly like the part of this shot where it tracks down the stairs at an angle). The style of the film is very much over-the-top, but it has to be in order to match the story line and Lithgow's masterfully OTT performance.

This, of course, is part of the inevitable "style over substance" argument that plagues De Palma. However, I think that, firstly, the argument is absurd in motion pictures (the art of cinema is the art of motion pictures - emphasis on the pictures. The medium of the cinema is visual, so why should it be a crime to have beautiful visuals or to use the "tools of the trade" in order to tell a story in the most effective manner? A great many genre directors, especially thriller directors, are accused of producing style over substance, but this is just because it is these films that most exploit the techniques of cinema in order to create an end product that exploits the emotions of the viewers. Pacing, angles, music, dialogue, montage, ect. are all vital parts of the thriller director's box of tricks and are nothing to be ashamed of). Secondly, there is nothing that indicates to me that there is any void between a film having substance and style and, as other posters have observed, there is substance in that there is a solid, logical plot.

I think one of the reasons De Palma and particularly this film are hated is that some viewers and many reviewers resent the ability he has to affect them - there are a couple of "jump" scenes in Raising Cain, some unexpected plot developments and an ending that works, despite the fact that De Palma has done a similar thing several times before. Of course, none of this will change anybody's mind, because his harshest critics are either unwilling or unable to objectively view his films. I am not a blind admirer of De Palma (I even have some problems with Raising Cain) but I do admire his abilities and his films are often superior to many of his peers. It is refreshing, in the 21st century, to still have a Hollywood director who has a distinctive, original style.

"There are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth." ~ Robert Evans

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This film marked the quick decline of DePalma the director. After this he became a joke. I can still remember the stunned look of the audience when the credits rolled.

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The only thing that confused me was when they opened Bauer's trunk and Davidovich was in there, clearly dead from drowning and yet, she comes back and slashes Lithgow...or maybe I got it wrong, could someone clear that up for me? For the record, no, it ain't De Palmas best but it does what it set out to do, I thought some of his techniques where pretty fancy, but then I realised he was just ripping off from other directors like that one long take with the steadicam where Waldheim is explaining everything to the cops...seems too similar to Kubrick...but again, maybe I got it wrong.

I'm a Drummer, not a Wet Nurse - Ringo

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I said that before Evans did. “There are 3 sides to every story: my side, your side and the truth.”

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6 is about all it deserves. That's what I gave it. If the bitch died when she was supposed to I'd have given it a 7.

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The drowned girl that the police found was not Carter's wife, but the girl he killed in the beginning of the movie.

that'll be the day

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This movie was a dreadful bore and very, very silly.

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