George wilbur expertise.


Instead of putting mona lisa on the stand, couldnt vinny just put george wilbur back up if he was such an expert. He would have known this if he knew so much about cars. Wouldnt that have looked stronger from the jury point of view coming from him rather than a girlfriend of the defender.

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Yes, of course.

But the film-makers were more concerned with creating comedy and humor. Not so much "simulating" what a real-life court case would look like.

The method you described would be quite legally sound and quite realistic, yet quite unfunny. The last being the most critical in the eyes of the film's writers and producers.

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Are you sure??




Forever Royal

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I am unsure that the producers of a comedy were trying to produce a comedy.

And, a funny one, at that.

Yes, I am unsure about this.

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Sorry, the answer I was looking for was. "I'm positive"

Did you even see the movie?




Forever Royal

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To be honest, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Above, I posted this:

I am unsure that the producers of a comedy were trying to produce a comedy.

And, a funny one, at that.

Yes, I am unsure about this.

That post was 100% sarcastic. I thought that this would have been obvious.

To answer your question ("Did I even see this film?"): the answer is yes. I have seen it several times.

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To be honest, I have no idea what you are talking about.


When she was on the stand and claimed that there was no way the tire tracks were made by a Pontiac Tempest, Vinny asker her "are you sure?" and she answered "I'm positive" to signal to him that they were on the same page about the posi-trac rear end.

That's why the answer to "are you sure?" on this board is "I'm positive" 







Forever Royal

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Ha ha!

Good one.

Went right over my head!

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what a fanook, lol

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Why would George Wilbur know minutia about 1964 Buick Skylarks and 1963 Pontiac Tempests? It was never said that he was a car expert; he was an expert in rubber analysis, or at least he knew how to operate a gas chromatograph machine.

It's not even particularly believable that Mona Lisa and Vinny knew all that stuff off the top of their heads, because that's the type of knowledge that comes from a lot of reading / research, not from simply being a mechanic. Well, anyone who knows cars knows that a car with a standard open differential couldn't have made those tire marks, but the other stuff, such as what year the Chevrolet 327 c.i. engine was introduced, what year it first appeared in a Bel Air, what the factory ignition timing was, and knowing what was and wasn't available for options on 1964 Buick Skylarks and 1963 Pontiac Tempests... that's not stuff you tend to pick up just from working on cars, i.e., that's not mechanical knowledge, that's Jeopardy-type trivia. I've known a lot of mechanics, and their knowledge of car trivia tends to be small, and what they think they know is often wrong. That doesn't mean they aren't good mechanics, it just means they don't do a lot of studying of topics that don't matter.

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Why would George Wilbur know minutia about 1964 Buick Skylarks and 1963 Pontiac Tempests? It was never said that he was a car expert; he was an expert in rubber analysis, or at least he knew how to operate a gas chromatograph machine.


Lots of gear heads know/knew about the Tempest. It's not a stretch to say that George Wilbur couldn't have been a gear head before he decided to become a special automotive instructor of forensic studies for the F.B.I.

Even if he didn't know about the posi not being an option in the Buick (I didn't know that), I'm sure he and everyone else missed the level burnout over the curb which would indicate an independent rear end, something quite rare other than Vettes and Jags of the era.

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Using movie logic:

Lisa wanted him to win. George Wilbur was brought in by the prosecution. He knew that if he got Lisa on the stand and talking, then she would basically do an information dump and lay out all the facts about how she can tell that a Pontiac Tempest made the tracks and not a Skylar. Wilbur on the other hand would only say what he was required to say in order to answer the question, and nothing more. Getting him to come to the same conclusion as Mona Lisa did would have taken a lot more time and effort, and Vinny was running out of time before the judge busted him. It was just easier to have Lisa lay out all the facts, then ask Wilbur afterwards if he agreed.

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As you said, Vinnie knew Lisa had the necessary knowledge to make his case but he couldn't know for sure if Wilbur did since the Judge did not give him the opportunity to verify Wilbur's credentials and allow him time to review the findings before he revealed them to the court. (I wonder if that would have been sufficient for an appeal had they been convicted?)

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Had George Wilbur had that knowledge he'd not have testified in the way he did. His report would have pointed out the inconsistencies between the evidence and the case as it was presented.

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Wilbur only had to answer the questions he was asked. They only asked him about size and brand of the tires on the car, and if they matched the tire tracks. He wasn't asked if it was possible for a Buick Skylar to make those tracks, and its unclear if he would have known that anyways.

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