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Roger shouldn't have fell into depression over Darryl's killing


I mean common. He had no other choice. Darryl would kill him and Riggs. Roger should have realized that this was not murder but self defense. And it wasn't Travis' fault either cause it was Darryl who chose to have this lifestyle. Travis didn't force him to buy a weapon from him but Darryl chose to buy a machine gun from him. It was Darryl's fault 100 percent. Remember when Nick said I don't blame you dad. I blame Darryl. He was right.

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Exactly. Also, Riggs said to Roger, "You had no choice. He had a machine gun with all the trimmings. He was gonna do you, me, anybody that came alone." Both Nick and Riggs' statements are in perfect agreement, that Murtaugh was absolutely justified. And that is true, too. Travis may have been the one selling those weapons, but Darryl was still responsible for his own choices. One can always choose a choice, but one cannot choose the consequences that may follow a particular choice. It was Darryl's own choice to be involved with that gang, to purchase that fully-automatic weapon, and to shoot it at police officers. Riggs was justified too, in approaching them in the first place and calling out to them, when he saw them near the burger stand. That's because Riggs is a police officer. So is Murtaugh. As a police officer, he is trained to investigate suspicious activity. And Murtaugh clearly warned Darryl to drop the weapon. He gave him an opportunity to do so, and the whole thing could have ended more peaceably. But he wouldn't stop firing. Only then did he return fire, killing him. I can understand Murtaugh feeling guilt, simply because Darryl had been his son's friend. I think this was simply to show that he was still a human being with a heart and soul, despite being a veteran police officer.

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Blah blah blah... we get it...

You pointed out much of the obvious in your every-other sentence. Thematically, the film knows all these things, and doesn't expect us to not know them as well. The point was the sociological situation that lead to gun problem in the first place, and lead a young man down a wrong path to begin with. The subtext lies in Murtaugh being a Black police officer who can see the sociology of the matter unfold first-hand despite him being a cop. It leads to him having to shoot black kids with guns in the long-run. He wasn't blaming himself necessarily. He was upset that he had to be caught in the middle of that sociological situation. He didn't necessarily feel guilt for doing something he was justified in doing. If he was a white cop, he may have still felt bad, but he would not have been as close to the sociology of the matter. Think about it. And try not to miss the point.


"You had no choice. He had a machine gun with all the trimmings. He was gonna do you, me, anybody that came alone."
That last word is "along."





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he was depressed b/c he didn't get to have his burger.



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only a sociopath wouldn't fill bad about killing a person. even if that person tries to kill you. its human nature to be upset that you had to kill someone.


even if the kid tried to shoot him. he was still a kid in Murtough's opinion

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You must hate riggs then he kill dozens of people and couldn't care less atleast 90% of the time.

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Why? Am 100% right riggs kills dozens of people and shows no emotion about it he often makes a joke about it, hell it's even a running joke in the first movie that riggs kills every single suspect so I suggest you take your own advice and rewatch the movies.

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I think it was Tyrone selling guns to the kids, not Travis.

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But he was hired by Travis to do so.

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He's not a Vulcan, he can get emotional over illogical stuff, nothing wrong.

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Having no other choice doesn't mean he can't regret what he did, especially if it was a kid he knew and interacted with all the time due to Darryl's friendship with Nick. If he'd simply shrugged it off as having been necessary and gotten on with his life I'd be slightly concerned for his humanity.

I mean, really, how many times will you look under Jabba's manboobs?

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Murtaugh was upset because he shot & killed a kid, a kid who's friends with his son.

But you're right, Murtaugh did the right thing in protecting himself and his partner for the thug. Darryl alone is the one at fault for choosing his lifestyle and refusing to surrender when Murtaugh told him to.

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That's easy to rationalize. Doesn't change the fact that he had history with the kid and knew it was his son's best friend. If you killed a close, long time acquaintance of yours in self defense, you'd be upset too. It's not simply about shooting the person, it's the betrayal of the relationship.

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They didn't say it outright, but you have to assume that he'd known Darryl since Darryl was a little kid riding his big wheel around the neighborhood with his own son.

That would mess a person up.


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