This isn't the only movie where her own *father* had her nude. In EVERY movie he has directed, that she is in also, she has been NUDE. Now, what kind of guy has his *daughter* nude in every movie he puts her in?!
Sick.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
I thought the same thing when I saw it recently! What other ones does he show Asia nekkid besides Trauma?
She is a hottie, but DAD isn't supposed to be seeing her goods,.is he?! LOL!~
"The Film in which you are about to see is an account of a tragedy that befell a group of 5 youths"
I thought the same thing when I saw it recently! What other ones does he show Asia nekkid besides Trauma?
She is a hottie, but DAD isn't supposed to be seeing her goods,.is he?! LOL!~
"The Film in which you are about to see is an account of a tragedy that befell a group of 5 youths"
I highly doubt he gets pleasure out of it. He must have like bathed her when she was young, so watching her grow up, I don't think it's a huge deal for him, especially since it's only her playing a character.
shareFrom what others have said, the character has an eating disorder, so they had to show that scene - I didn't say he got his "jollies" filming his daughter, but odd he wouldn't mind every one ELSE in the world seeing her neaked! Now, she's very free with her body, poses nude a lot. Which is nice!
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I know this. But I think this thread was more about people not understanding why Dario would watch his daughter's titties behind the camera and that it was a bit 'exploitive'.
"The Film which you are about to see is an
account of a tragedy that befell a group of 5 youths."
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Its HER choice to pose nude... She can do whatever she want! He's not gonna tell to Aria to stop posing nude...Its her own business. You know, pornstars also has dads, but its their decision to do porn so their fathers cannot really decide for them.
and no, Dario obviously didnt do this to see her daughter nude for *beep* sake! It was for the role and I bet most of the time she did nudity in movies it was her decision...She love to show her body and I don't blame her. Its good to look at lol.
The fact that she's his daughter won't influence the ideas of the movie...While making his movies, for him, she's an actress before his daughter.
"Bladerunner", first let me commend you on having a Catullus quote. A+, not enough people know who he is, & he writings for Clodia aka Lesbia are nothing short of beautiful. So again, go you for having that as your signature!
But about the films, yeah it's kind of odd that he often has her nude, but I somehow truely doubt it's cause he's getting off by her being nude. His works, however creepy, are art at there very core. Nudity is one of the finest forms of art, & the human body is an incredibly alluring thing. And Dario Argento is known for his horror works, & I can't think of one decent horror film that didn't show a topless woman at least once. I don't think it's always necessary to the plotlines to show a nude woman, but sometimes it is & sometimes it just works. Nudity shows a person's vulnerability, when they are stripped of the things that bind them that they can hide beneath, they are forced then to be thier true self, & sometimes amazing work comes out of it.
~Lolita Bones
Troy: "Flat?"
Veronica: "Just as God made me."
if you think thats *beep* up, Melvin Van Peeble shot his son, Mario, having sex with a middle aged woman for his film Sweet Sweetback's Badasssss Song. They were both fully nude and Mario was only 12-13 at the time.
shareWell, my original post was a bit inflammatory... you know, you get in moods, and say stuff, and sometimes it's not exactly "you", but there it is.
I certainly agree about nudity vis-a-vis vulnerability and so forth, but I just think it is a bit weird to have your daughter in your movies nude all the time. For *me* there are certain boundaries that are healthy. I'm not talking about being all Pollyanna and so on, I'm talking about the idea that there are places where father and daughter just shouldn't go. But hey, some people don't agree, and that is fine. However, we all agree that *some* boundaries are appropriate, that father and daughter shouldn't be having sex and having children together. It is simply a matter of *where* the line should go.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
Bearing in mind that Europe, and therefore European film makers have often been known to be more liberal about nudity. It is not necessarily associated with sex all the time, as people's physical appearance is, infact a part of life. I imagine for Dario and Asia Argento the nudity here was a pretty matter of fact issue and not perverse.
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I'm surprised at how many idiots are posting here. There is another thread just like this.
Dario and his daughter are European. The way sexuality and nudity are viewed in Europe and especially Italy and France, is a lot different than it is in the US. Europeans are more open about nudity and don't see it as something disgusting and exploitive like Americans do. To Dario, shooting his daughter's breasts is just as natural as filming any other part of her. Europeans just don't think about nudity in the media that way.
I think the people accusing him of being a pervert or whatever are saying more about themselves than they are about Mr. Argento.
Hmmm... are the laws about incest different? Are the concepts of exploitation different? How about exploiting one's daughter?
By the way, not all "Europeans" agree with you.
I didn't say he was a "pervert", instead I said that putting one's own daughter in a movie nude was "sick". I stand by that assertion.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
Well, I, an American, recently took a cruise through the Carribean, on a ship which claimed Italy as its home port; NUMEROUS French and Italian female children ran around the pool area without "tops" to their bathing suits. I was not offended/uncomfortable with this. Does that make me "sick" to use your term, or are you the "sick" one for seeing children in this way...?
"Go! put off holiness, / And put on intellect"
--William Blake
Hello, you're talking about CHILDREN. Asia was not a little child when he had her do a topless scene in this movie. She was something like 18-years-old.
When you were in Italy, did you see fathers walking around the pool with their 18-year-old daughters, showing them off topless?
This isn't about naturism, or nudism, this is about a father using his daughter to do a nude, erotic scene in one of his movies, try not to confuse that with little children running around a pool without bathing tops on (something that is completely okay and normal). Sheesh.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
I saw nothing "erotic" (your term) about the scene.
"Go! put off holiness, / And put on intellect"
--William Blake
Lets see... a gorgeous eighteen-year-old woman exposes her ample breasts, and a young man who fancies her is peeping at her through a crack in the door. Yeah, right... nothing "erotic" there. I was frightened to ask what you do find "erotic", but after reading your gushing review of Stick It and fawning over the legs of Holley in Land of the Lost I think I'll skip that question. Yikes.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
Incest ?! Sorry, did I miss the scene where Dario had sex with his daughter ? Do you even know what incest is ?
shareOh please. You talk like Europeans are all nudists or something. I think that even in that TOTALLY alien world where the values are SOOO different - Europe - most people would find it uncomfortable to shoot images of their adult daughter in the nude. In fact, I'd bet good money on it.
"Be wary of Wenk -- I want to warn you!"
If you can't handle it... maybe should stick to watching some Walt Disney
shareRight, because if I have moral objections to a guy making his own daughter get nude in his movie, then the only thing I could "handle" is "Walt Disney".
Nice logic there, zarch-3, I guess there are only two kinds of people in the world: those that are ok with directors filming their daughters nude, and people who watch Walt Disney.
You should stick to watching Zombie Strippers, and leave the philosophy to the adults.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
Hey ever consider that other people don't necessarily want your lame morals forced upon them.
This film is even less suggestive than say Leon, The Professional.
I'm not trying to "force my morals" upon anyone. First of all, this is my opinion, and is stated as thus. Second, these aren't just "my" morals, many, many people would agree with me.
A father has an obligation, a responsibility to protect his daughter. Using his power as a father to coerce her into doing a nude scene is a violation of that trust, IMO.
She was only 18 when this happened and this was her *first* nude scene.
I think many, many daughters and others would agree with me. This is exploitation of a young, impressionable daughter, and is simply wrong, IMO.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
>>She was only 18 when this happened and this was her *first* nude scene.<<
Actually, she was 16 going on 17.
It's weird, but the shot itself had a purpose. It's not like it was gratuitous.
I think it's even weirder that Dario didn't stop his 16 year old daughter from starving herself for the role in his film (which he admits in the Anchor Bay DVD featurette.) I love his films, but he seems like a real a'hole.
We face the falling snow with our hairdryers aimed heavenwards and 50 foot extension cords
16? Ugh!
Listen, I'm not going to argue the merits of the nudity, that is irrelevant (in my opinion). What is relevant is the fact that a father directed his 16-year-old daughter in a nude scene in one of his movies. It's just gross, sorry, but it's twisted and cringe-worthy.
Any man who has a daughter will understand what I mean.
On him being a "total a'hole" you and I completely agree.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
On what evidence do you support your statement he MADE ("making") his daughter do it? Do you think she had no say in it?
I think the point being made in this thread is that different societies have different morals. Rmember polygamy was once an American Mormon (1800`s) thing, and Romeo and Juliet are supposed to be 13 and 14 years of age, respectively. Why do you feel the need to impose your morals on other people throughout the world?
"Go! put off holiness, / And put on intellect"
--William Blake
It struck me as odd too. I only imagine that he tries to think of her as he would any other actress, but the nude scene here was actually completely extraneous and unnecessary - makes you wonder. Still, I don't think he lusts after her or anything - he probably just thinks it's good to have the female lead nude at some point to keep the audience interested.
"Be wary of Wenk -- I want to warn you!"
Oh, I don't believe he lusts after his own daughter or anything like that! I just think, he is wholly inappropriate and cavalier with his own flesh and blood. It is true that often nude scenes are important in horror, because they make one feel vulnerable, particularly the women watching (and they make men nervous for the woman), so I don't begrudge him the nude scene. I just, can't imagine any situation where I would ask my own daughter to be nude in my movie. I would be afraid of how it may make her feel, and it would be concerned about how others viewed my request. That is just MHO.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus
So it's ok for Argento to have any other young woman naked in his films, but as soon as it's his daughter it's suddenly his responsibility to make her decisions for her?
"You're not a Snake, and I'm not an Ocelot. We're men with names."
So it's ok for Argento to make love to any other young woman, but not his daughter?
Not all things you do with someone else is ok with your own CHILDREN! Geez.
You never stop being "responsible" for your children... ever.
"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus