The real Daniel Saxon.


I heared that the real Daniel Saxon plays a cameo in this movie.
Does anyone knows wish moment in the movie that is ?


Dont tell it to the Jackals or most i say the Hells Angels.......

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His last name isn't Saxon but he does have a cameo role. You'd never be able to recognize him. ......for obvious reasons.

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his real name is supposedly dan black, but I doubt we'll find out which part he played proberly just in the background somewhere.I did find this article which seems I think has more than a few links to the story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/3331701.stm

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Danny was my husbands car partner for a while. I wish they had told the whole story.......... Dan lived quite a life.

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I wonder if this story was even true as I can't find any evidence it actually existed. I am a current law enforcement officer and a former Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputy!

If anyone could find out and let all of us know as to where we can read up on or what??

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It's hard to believe that you are in Law Enforcement with a name like Deputycorndog. lol

But Danny's story is true. I can't remember the year was that the Playboy article came out but his story is there in an interview. Hollywierd has glammed it up a bit as usual.

H.A.s still have a contract out on him so, there is no more to be said. He is covered by the umbrella, or brotherhood.

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yeah it is a true story, but it was in 1975 california and the hells angels was the mc gang. they dont speak of the story too much because he was so deep in. ive heard very briefly about his story in some of the narcotics interdiction schools ive been to. hells angels are still going but theyre more into the modern crimes now and pretty much acting as an outlaw ol skool mafia. if im not mistaken he was acting as a Sargeant At Arms for his undercover mc gang, which handles all weapons and narcotics sales and distribution. its a pretty interesting story and i watch the movie every other week

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the story of Dan Saxon is some what similar to the life of Anthony Tait, who was probably the only man ever to successfuly infiltrate the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club. Tait was the Seargeant at Arms in the Anchorage Chapter in Alaska who was working with the FBI, ATF, and DEA. In time, his reputation rose very quickly and even became the right hand man of Sonny Barger the leader of the HAMC and learned all the club's dirtiest secrets during an elaborate FBI undercover sting. He sent away 38 major members across the US including Sonny Barger and the club's two best Meth cookers; Kenny Owen and Chico Manganiello. He could've probably taken out the entire club if DEA didn't want to shut it down so quick. His story is very similar to Dan Saxon and if you want to know more read the book "Hells Angels: Into the Abyss" by Yves Lavigne. His book s kick ass!

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I remember that this was on "top cops".

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Tony Tait was NEVER a cop. I've met him; no police agency would've ever hired him, but he did do the right thing and he put a lot of HA in prison.

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That clears a few things up: I have never heard of or been able to find any trace of the Jackals mc.

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I wonder if this is the same story that the setries Gangland reported on. They have a one hour episode of an undercover agent in Arizona inflitrating the Hell's Angels.

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It happened in 1975 in Northern California. I know that Sonny Barger (the Founder of the Oakland Chapter of the Hells Angels was involved because shortly after this all came to light his wife sued him. If you either google Undercover Angel (The Article) or Dan Black is how I found that.

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ya its true.. in arizona nevada and cali.. i remember a bunch of people were busted

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I realize it's a little late to be responding to this, but just in case someone does read it here goes.
I'm wondering if some people aren't confusing this movie with William Queen's account in Under and Alone of his 1998 infiltration into the Mongols MC. I understand his book has been adapted to become a movie for release in 2010. The was a TV documentry based on Queen's account which lead me to believe some people are confusing a 1992 fictional movie with Queen's true account.

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very interesting that. i love the movie and after reading the bit on the dvd about larry ferguson finding an article in an issue of playboy i have been trying to find said article for awhile now, as i would love to know more about his story.

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Dan Black was they name he used while undercover, not his real name.

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you will never know but it is fun figuring it out.. i think its the tatooist , he has the same build hair style and they never show his face,or the guy blood shook hands with in the "hole thing" when they were talkin over whats for sale..although he could be the 47th biker on the san carlos run . lol

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Actually I am pretty sure it was supposed to be the mongols and I have heard Mel Gibson is going to make a movie based on this story. But This is the best Biker/undercover movie I have ever seen. Very accurate on both counts, but could have done without the love story.

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You are mistaking this story for that of ATF agent Billy Queen. He infiltrated the Mongols in 2002 or so. He wrote a book called Under and Alone, which is a good read as well.

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I doubt it was the Mongols. They are a Latino gang.

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The character was a combination of undercover narcs that happened during the late 70's and early 80's. The H.A. were the main club, but at that time the only club in Arizona, where the movie takes place, was The Dirty Dozen (who became H.A. in the 90's). It was a nationwide sweep and the main narc did not front a club, way too easy for the Angels to pick up on that *beep* My friends Dad was in the movie too and is busted at a poker table towards the end. He was the Cave Creek Chapter President of the Dirty DOzen and later the H.A. before being killed in front of a comedy cub by a sniper in real life.

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Rigid, that makes your dad's friend "Hoover". He wasnt assassinated by a sniper rifle. He was killed outside the club at short range with a silenced pistol in front of appx. 15 of his "brothers". Wonder how that happened... Hmmm.. someone may have got tired of the way he ran things like a dictator.

Other than rigid is right on with how things went down. The movie had some really unbelieveable parts though. First, no one is going to draw down on another clubs member and not get taken off the count right then and their. No questions.
The part where a member from another club cuts all the way to the front of the pack and even passes the Pres. is complete *beep* he would have been knocked off that scooter all the way in the back and left there. That's a major sign of disrespect.
All outlaw clubs chop the collar off their "cuts". This has been an outlaw symbol from way back. everyone in the movie had their's on.
Also in the pack there are some frames of ol' ladies riding in the back and even some with a patch on. NEVER WILL HAPPEN..

other than that... it's a movie..

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I recall seeing in some doco (an hour long episode, where they had different crime related stuff each time if I recall correctly) there was an interview with an agent (probably fbi, but not 100% certain) who had infiltrated, and risen somewhat in the ranks of the mongols. As he discussed, he had developed a certain amount of respect (albeit with a more objective view of the big picture and the impact of criminal activities and the lives it can destroy) for them - in the sense that the club members really did love one another, in an old school, die for ones comrades warrior sort of way. He discussed various evidence/cases his work contributed to. He also mentioned the way he 'got out' of the undercover role. Basically some of the fellow members phoned him, because they had found 'an informer' in their ranks and were on their way to kill them, and he was to join them for the hit. At which point, in order to save the life of the other biker who was in fact innocent (of being an informer at least) - and had to basicalyl tell them 'don't kill him, he's not the undercover, it's me'

Weird stuff, and must take a huge amount of courage to go undercover in any sort of long term scenario - the stress would probably knock 10 years of their life, assuming they survived hte undercover assignment of course.

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Jmac thats the billy (st john) queen the guy mentioned earlier, very similar story though. His book is quite good and they are making it into a film with mel gibson, can't see it being as good though.

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You are sure right about that. That is a huge no no...passing up any patched member of a club is bad but blowing by the Prez and taking point?

Ain't gonna happen.

Much less pointing a gun at another club's member (and an officer at that). And see how fast you would get beaten down by your own brothers if you pissed yourself and started begging.

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"All outlaw clubs chop the collar off their "cuts". This has been an outlaw symbol from way back. everyone in the movie had their's on."


what does this mean? the collar of what?

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The "cut" referred to is the leather jacket with the club's patch on the back (also known as the club's "colors"). The quote means that all outlaw bikers cut the collar off of the jacket that has thier patch on the back. Apparently, all of the bikers in the movie wore jackets with collars on them.

I don't have an opinion. The word "opinion" implies the possibility I'm wrong.

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The "cuts" are the denim jackets with the sleeves and collars cut off - that are worn OVER the biker's leather jackets - that sport the club's colors...

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How would you know?

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How can you infiltrate them without killing someone?

Or did they think of that doorstep after beeing infiltrated?

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