Ending theory


I have a theory about the ending (sorry for my messy english):

What if it's not what it seems?

In the last scene, we see Benny talking to the policeman. If memory serves, the first line of the scene is from the policeman, saying: ''Why did you wait so long for telling us?''. Right away, we ASSUME Benny just gave himself in. Later, is parents arrive (probably arrested by the police), asked Benny why he did it. Benny says ''Sorry'' and leave.

Now, I think Benny turned his parents in, but said he was innocent: his parents killed the girl, and disposed of her body. Wich is true: the father did dispose of the corpse, and evidence could probably found in the home (for instance, the gun: it belong to the father). Who would the police trust, between the teenager and his father?

All this might have been Benny's plan: remove his parents from the picture.

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That was a possibility i was considering. From what we see of the tape Benny shows to the police i believe there is no specific mention of Benny himself commiting the murder, so if we were to believe that Benny had edited his film footage to remove evidence of his involvement in the crime it may be possibly for him to be turning his parents in, not himself.

However, due to the ambiguity of the final scenes, there is not enough evidence for us to support this theory.

can't talk. eating brains

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In the video he shows them, they do mention, "Say the boy is sick. Send him away." That implicates him from what I can tell.

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I do not think that it suggests that at all. In fact I think it can be construed as them trying to get him out of the house so that he, an innocent cohabitant, is not a witness to their further crime of the dismemberment. It more implies that the mother and Benny must vacate while the man stays behind and cleans up the adults' mess, not that they were trying to hide the actual culprit from the authorities.

We are shown throughout the film that the child is a manipulator of both people and video. The ending is only ambiguous to anyone who missed the fact that the boy has no conscience; he wiped up the bleed with the same emotion that he later wipes up spilt milk. He clearly has edited the surviving footage to implicate his parents.

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I know this was a long time ago but I just watched the movie recently and honestly I think it's probably what happened.
As we see in the end scene , Benny leaves completely unchained , which is definitely not something the police would do if they had a murder suspect on their hands . Other than that , while taking to the police Benny says "can I leave now" which is something that someone who is turning himself in wouldn't say definitely .
I also think the shock his parents are in is definitely something to keep in mind , and his he says sorry too .
I don't know honestly , but I believe that this is most probably what happened : he turned his parents in using only part of the recording as evidence so he doesn't incriminate himself .
It seems to be very likely because he doesn't seem to really like his parents or appreciate them , at least from my view . He seems like he could be more emotionally connected to his sister most .


vibin on the dark side of the moon .

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WTF? Are you stupid? That's what happened! We see Benny showing the policeman the clip of his parents planning to get rid of the girl and then he asks "can I go now".

So if the ending isn't like it seemed that would mean that Benny turned himself in, not the other way around!

Somebody here has been drinking and I'm sad to say it ain't me - Allan Francis Doyle

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he said, "can i go now?" if you just admitted to murdering someone-- whether on purpose or by accident-- no cop in their right mind would let you go, nor would you be stupid enough to ask. he was framing his parents. you know, the ones who taught him how to get away with crime and feel no remorse about it?

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IMO, Benny framed his parents, and i believe this to be correct counting Benny's last words on the film. There was no evidence that Benny had killed the girl, since he took care of everything, and it was his father who got rid of the body and the gun is supposed to be his. And as a matter of fact, the dialogue at the end of the movie when his parents are talking what to do with him, can be used against them if this theory is to be taken as the one that Haneke had in mind.

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It is clear that Benny tried to blame the killing on his parents by selectively showing the police his tapes.
The movie is about the power of modern media/TV and how it can affect our lives but also how it can be abused. This is a theme that runs through several Haneke movies (Cache, Funny Games). Also note how the movie shows this double effect in the form of TV news broadcasts about the war in Yugoslavia:

a) on one hand how it disentisizes Benny by casually showing pictures of violence of the war and

b) how it manipulates public opinion by taking the pictures they make out of their original context and putting it in a new (propagandistic) one.


"Oh, what have I drunk?" - Socrates

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Excellent reply. Thank you for the perspective.

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"Den Gleichen Gleiches, den Ungleichen Ungleiches."

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I didn't find the ending ambiguous at all. He framed his parents and a couple of years later invaded that poor family's home in the sequel, Funny Games. :)

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I think it's a good guess that Benny TRIED to frame his parents for the murder. But whether he was successful, is another matter. It's quite reasonable to assume that the police would figure out that his father (or mother) did not really kill the girl. An interesting possibility is that the parents would perhaps try to save their son from prison by taking the blame voluntarily. Perhaps that would keep the police away from their son. But even in that case, I would suspect that the police would eventually figure out that the son is the one who really killed the girl.

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The idea that the whole film was some premeditated act on Benny's part to frame is parents and remove them from his life is, to me, absolutely silly. It reduces the film to a fairly vacuous mystery thriller, which it is not. Haneke's film is a Bressonian reflection on societal malfunction and bourgeois alienation. There are far too many signs that point in the opposite direction of the theory that this was all some mastermind framing of his own parents. For instance, before Benny uses the weapon against the girl, he gives it to her and turns it on himself, giving her an opportunity to kill him. You could argue that he knew she wasn't going to pull the trigger, but that's quite a gamble to take, as is the assumption that your parents won't turn you in when they find out what you've done. Furthermore, the way the murder plays out completely undermines any notion of a premeditated act. After he uses the weapon on her, he first tries to help her, and then when she won't stop screaming, he becomes overwhelmed by fear and anxiety and is driven to put her out of her misery, to finish the job. There was nothing about it that suggested he wanted to kill her from the outset. And if he wanted to ensure that his parents didn't turn him in, there's a whole lot more things he could have done to make the murder look like an accident. It was all far too organic to be manufactured. Of course, if you want to strain yourself enough, you can find a reason to justify any theory. But anyone with any knowledge of Haneke's fundamental themes and motifs wouldn't even consider this theory. It would completely destroy the entire thematic core of the film, and reduce it to a superficial genre film. The idea that even Benny himself doesn't really know why he did what he did is central to the film. Push that aside for some cock-eyed theory of a framing scheme, and you're left with a pretty worthless movie. Nothing in the film points to that theory. That's the result of too much Hollywood cinema, teaching viewers to think in those terms. That's not Haneke's modus operandi, at all. Haneke's films go far beyond that kind of shallow puzzle-solving. One thing all of his films have in common is a refusal to offer the viewer resolution. The power and the intelligence of his films comes from that refusal. By not piecing things together for us and giving us all the answers we want, we are forced to come to grips with the lingering issues presented by the film. He wants us not to know why Benny did what he did, because Benny himself doesn't even seem to know. That's where the film's potency derives from. To come up with some far-fetched theory about the protagonist framing his parents is an attempt to find resolution in a narrative that was clearly not meant to have any.

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To me, Benny seemed a teen experiencing symptoms of schizophrenia (or some other serious mental disorder). He didn't seem to understand the implications of his actions, nor did he seem to be capable of experiencing empathy for others.

That said, after viewing those last 5 minutes, I did wonder about his having asked his mother to leave the door to his room open and the door to the living room open. That seemed odd, particularly since his father's comments at the beginning of the film about the need for some fresh air to be able to get into the room suggested that Benny tended to keep his door closed all the time. Did Benny record his parents' whispered conversation intending to subsequently use that recording against them? Or had it just been his habit to leave the recorder on all the time anyway, and he only decided to turn the recording over to the police after he and his mother had returned from their trip?

My sense has been that he did not originally plan to confess the murder or to turn his parents in; he only decided to do so after they had returned from the trip. I think he recorded his parents because their reaction to what had been revealed about the murder was something he felt needed to be made real by his recording it, which is why he asked his mother to leave the doors open. Note that while he and his mother were in Egypt, he mentioned in a recording that there had been no mention in the papers of the murder, and he seemed perhaps somewhat disappointed by that.

I thought he was turning himself in, out of a belated sense of remorse. (Maybe his grip on reality and lack of empathy were not complete, at least not yet at that point.)

But maybe he did turn his parents in, pin the murder on them, "to see what it would be like." I'm not sure.

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