Did you ever beat off to Catwoman in this movie?
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Not Catwoman, but Poison Ivy in Batman & Robin.share
No, I beat off to Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane while she is wearing that sexy brown polka dot dress with no bra on in the cafe shop where she meets Peter Parker before getting kidnapped by Doc Ock.
That, or I'll beat off to Jessica Alba's Sue Storm/Invisible Woman or Katie Holmes' Rachel Dawes.
Funnily enough I can remember being in school another boy telling me hed seen either Batman Returns or Batman that weekend (I hadn't seen it at that point) and he said (and I quote) 'everyone in the audience was w*nking off whenever Catwoman (or Kim Basinger) was on screen' (I think it was catwoman/BR but it might've been Vicki Vale/Batman.. actually yeh I think it was catwoman/BR as think I remember being abit 'well I wouldn't do that as she looks kind of weird/creepy in that suit')share
Pfieffer is as much of a fox as she is a cat. The rebel eroticism of BDSM sneaks its way into a mass-marketed blockbuster picture. Burton used to be pretty darn subversive, didn't he?share
I watched Batman Returns repeatedly when I was a kid and never got the feeling of sexuality in the movie. I thought Catwoman looked cool. But after I got older I could appreciate the sexiness and kinkiness.
I think that's the genius of Tim Burton. He made a sexy movie for adults but a cool movie for kids.
Compare this to the ill-fated Berry's Catwoman movie. There the costume lacked subtlety. Even kids would know (and be uncomfortable) when they see the forced sexiness. It's just crass.
I think a lot of kids wouldn't get what's up with Catwoman in Batman Returns, yeah. I think you're right about that. Maybe it's because S/M stuff isn't easily-spotted unless you know what you're looking for. Like, she's Catwoman, so of course she'll be slinking around in a leather suit like that. Kids get that. What they don't get is this subculture of PVC/vinyl/leather fetishes, so they won't pick up on that particular shibboleth. It's like code.
Also, I don't think the costume was made from a place of, "Oh, let's make her sexy," or "let's make her a fetish/kink suit," I think they went, "Okay, who is Catwoman?" and, yes, sexy and kinky came up, but they started with the character. They also made that suit from Burton's aesthetics and you can see the influence of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari in there, German Expressionism, and you can see the stitches have that Frankenstein (Frankenweenie? Frankenkitty? ...Frankenpussy...?) antecedent. So, because decisions weren't made with a mono-maniacal bent towards BDSM or sexiness, the suit isn't just screaming "Look we made it a sex thing!" and so it's got that element, but it's still camouflaged for any kids or people who just don't know about kink culture.
Berry's Catwoman costume sucked (I didn't see the film, but I saw the ads) because it was clearly not designed with character in mind. It's the opposite: they wanted Halle Berry in a sexy outfit (which...okay, sure, who doesn't?) and they went with some torn-jeans aesthetic, but is that Catwoman? Is that who she is? They wanted to design a sexy costume, a fashion-conscious costume, but there's no visible references to comics or a cool aesthetic or design or something.
Pfieffer was hot in that tight leather outfit!share
I gave her my Batmilk.share