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Is "Batman Returns" supposed to be a superhero version of a "black/dark comedy"?


I guess it makes sense considering that the guy who wrote Heathers also did the screen play here:
http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=3612.0

After 25 years I finally look at this movie from an angle that portrays it a lot less dark as I always saw it and more as a Burtonesque black comedy in a lot of ways. It's a drama, a tragedy, an action-adventure, and a romantic thriller, and yet every single aspect of it is tinged with that black humor that is Tim's trademark. A lot of the stuff in this movie that I found dark or tragic for so long is actually funny as hell when you think about it in a depraved, devious Tim Burton way. Take the Ice Princess' demise, for instance. That used to haunt me as the tragic death of an innocent girl and was my single least favorite part of the whole movie. But think about it. She doesn't know the proper order of operation for lighting the Christmas tree, then she falls off a rooftop overlooking Gotham Plaza and of all the places she could have landed in the Plaza, she lands on the switch to the tree and lights it right up. It's f***ing hilarious.

Even the intense drama of the finale (my fav movie scene ever) has that dark humor to it if you look at it from that angle (Selina's nursery rhyme as Max blasts bullet after bullet into her, Max learning that there actually is such a thing as too much power, Emperor penguins serving as pallbearers, etc). I still love the intensity and the "death and death" (as opposed to life and death) of it, but that added an extra layer.

For me Batman Returns had always been the dark tragedy of Selina Kyle, with everyone and everything else (even Batman) as nothing more than background. It was the almost pitch black tale of a woman's shattered innocence which is a big part of why it resonated with me. Don't get me wrong it still does and it's still my favorite movie and probably always will be but there's so much more to the movie that I'm finally seeing that makes it that much broader and much more lovable to a crazy chick like me as opposed to Selina's story just appealing to my own shattered innocence. The issue with all of this is I no longer see it as darker than dark or that "almost pitch black" that I used to. It's crazy and colorful, but under a heavy shroud of darkness with a beautiful snowfall. Full on masterpiece. God I love this movie.

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Selina in this movie isn't trying to steal anything. She only wants revenge against Max.

She is mad when the Ice Princess is killed. And she does try to help another woman who is being assaulted on the street....vs just leaving her.

She needed her own movie done right.

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I think your right it is somewhat of a dark comedy. It has a lot of camp to it, and it would have been seen as pretty dark for 92. As the movie got a lot of heat from concerned parents about its dark aspects.

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