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Ending Meaning

posted 7 years ago by Broncho_Knight
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This is one of the last posts we will be able to make on IMDb, so I want to post as much important info as possible. It's almost like learning your best friend has only less than 2 weeks to live. It's so sad!

Something that I have always wondered is what does the film's final image of Catwoman and the Bat Symbol mean?

Also we will ever get the perfect conclusion to Burton's series 25-30 years later with Keaton and Pfeiffer and the Joker's daughter as the villain to bring things full circle?

On a side note, it's so ironic how similar Penguin and Shreck are to Trump and Pence.

[–] HarveyManfredSinJohn 7 years ago

It will be sad to lose contact with all you guys. I can't believe the IMDB I'd doing this to us?

Anyway, what do you mean by Penguin and Shreck being similar to Trump and Pence? The Penguin is a tragic outcast and Shreck is a smart self-made man. I found this think either of them were homophobes like Pence. And in view of the Penguin's personal circumstances, I doubt he'd be against abortion.

Also, why would Trump or Pence kill the Ice Princess? She was very dumb, wasn't she? Wouldn't that make her more likely to be a Trump supporter/a Republican, rather than a liberal? 

Last Seen Films: Rogue One - 9/10, Silence - 10/10, La La Land - 10/10

[–] cjh8504 7 years ago

Broncho didn't mention the IP. Who mentioned the IP? No one gives a flying flip about the IP except you.

RIP Gene Wilder. RIP Barbara Hale. You were great in Perry Mason. RIP William Christopher.

[–] romperstomperz 7 years ago

Has that Harvey douche got a hard on for moronic blondes with single digit IQ's?

[–] pioneergrrrl 7 years ago

Shrek - Trump
Penguin-Sanders

The two don't really like women. Both make disdainful comments about women. Sanders had written porn about women at one point. He was 'lurking' in the shadows of politics--until coming out when running for president--and then suddenly covered by everybody as the hot thing of the moment. He drew a lot of attention from young people as the coolest role model a young person could have (a line in the film). He got mad when people did not go along with his intended plans and promised to upend the Democratic convention--rather than run as an independent.

As for the ending scene--I think there was supposed to be a sequel with Pfeiffer and/or Keaton in it and Burton directing---but the concept fell apart. Shame too.
I would have been VERY interested in seeing it. It would have been miles better than that garbage w/ Berry

[–] AndrewGS 7 years ago

LOL, Sanders does have a lot of self-righteousness and fury comparable to the Penguin when you think of it. His not running as an independent was a brief bit of humility.

[–] cjh8504 7 years ago

No. Only with the lousy Ice Princess. He's obsessed.

RIP Gene Wilder. RIP Barbara Hale. You were great in Perry Mason. RIP William Christopher.

[–] pioneergrrrl 7 years ago

Penguin also was obsessed with the young campaign workers--it was made clear that he was a lech.

Selina physically halts him as catwoman when he proposes consummating their fiendish union.

[–] HarveyManfredSinJohn 7 years ago

We need true socialism, for the masses. Which is where Sanders comes in.

Hillary was only appealing to rich elite 'liberals'. What's the point of that?

A true feminist would back a people's left-wing movement, not a corporatist one that marginalises working-class women.

Last Seen Films: Rogue One - 9/10, Silence - 10/10, La La Land - 10/10

[–] pioneergrrrl 7 years ago

He's the one with three houses--which the masses do not have. And who was able to charter the private plane to Italy for a personal meeting with the pope

Again not something commoners get to do. And even this pope is not a proponent of women's rights. Bans on reproductive health care still stand. These do impact working class women--who do not themselves have the money to go to places where it is legal.

[–] AndrewGS 7 years ago

Something that I have always wondered is what does the film's final image of Catwoman and the Bat Symbol mean?

I pretty much always interpret it to mean, Catwoman is thinking, "Rematch time!!!!"

Probably not that she particularly wants to fight Batman again but she has accepted that she's probably a villain and will definitely be defiant.

I don't know about the Joker having a daughter and becoming the villain, if that's an attempt to adapt Harley Quinn it would probably be too different.

I've got to admit, I kind of like Pence and it's too bad he sided with Trump (although he could have some positive influence).

[–] darkzero 7 years ago

On a side note, it's so ironic how similar Penguin and Shreck are to Trump and Pence.

I don't wish to sound like a grammar nazi, but please learn the proper meaning and use of irony/ironic. It's one of the most misused words in the English lexicon. It's pervasive misuse is one of my pet peeves.

Irony is the OPPOSITE of what is expected - e.g., a dwarf playing in the NBA.

Similarities between movies and real life or actors and the characters they play are NOT ironic.

Originality needs a reboot.