this is one of the worst films i have ever seen!
i personally think this film is terrible, the acting is some of the worst ive seen, cant believe this is actually getting a kind of remake... awefull!
sharesorry did we even see the same film
it was a good film about a man on the edge
I agree it is a terrible film. Poor story.
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Well said, Abel Ferrara was not one of the best directors around, and fa from it, but he captured something with this film and King of New York, that nobody else ever has. True grit and peoples' voyeuristic needs to follow the lives of people they have no desire to know. I think Keitel was in mould-breaking form like never before and the film tackled a lot of issues and made people think for themselves. Which clearly a lot of people on this board are not capable of!
sharethis is godwin's law for imdb,it shall be termed midnight cinephile's law from here onward…….
for every cutting edge work of cinema there is some pathetic low iq lout that decries"
"i hate this movie and i don't understand it"
please do us all a favor,go back to walmart and go buy some adam sandler dvd's and choke on them til you expire
thanks!
Hahahaha good shout
shareI graduated from high school at 10 and had my first PhD at 15, made my first million at 18, and at 27 started a business that now employs 1600 people. No one would accuse me of being a low brow and I have NEVER shopped at Walmart.
But this movie had NO redeeming qualities whatsoever (thank gawd I played it in the background while writing my new book).
I played it because I liked Harvey Keitel when he first came on the scene. I thought he could act and I was looking forward to seeing his DO that. Then came Taxi Driver, and already a pattern was beginning to reveal.
For some reason, Harvey either can't discern what materials might actually be worth sharing with his audience (aka 'he's kinda stupid after all') or he is really the sort of person who likes lurking around the swamp bottom.
At any rate, this movie was terrible, how exactly was his character 'finding redemption' in it? He was just a besotted druggie/gambler who chose to live in the midst of scumbag chaos and that's how he died too. BAD MOVIE.
Life is only like that for low lifes. In my 68 years life has been far far FAR better, because I WORKED to make it so. Granted, I'm smarter than 99.9% of the population, but I had to struggle with my own self-discipline and focus too, in the early days, but if I can reach for the stars, stay away from mind-altering substances (not even caffeine goes into this body) and have a life definitely worth living, anyone can. But Harvey is no longer someone I will watch (or perhaps I should say 'listen to' since the monitor with the crackle movie on it is small and behind my desk). Bah humbug, and back to work for me.
Life is a journey not a destination. Fear nothing.
My favorite part of TanteWaileka's story is how he say he's 68 here, but in his profile he says he's 52 (and don't tell me it's just out of date. You joined in 2004. Do the math, genius.) Great job. Clearly a FOREELZ member of MENSA.
Sadly, I bet a lot of people on here really do fall for this load of crap of yours and play right into your pathetic little attention seeking routine. Well, good luck with the whole imdb as a means of personal fulfillment thing...
You mean you quit high school at 10 and learned how to spell PhD at 15? I insulted you because you insulted me and everyone else on here by lying to us. You don't need to lie to make people respect you. If you start just being yourself, you'll be a happier person and you'll have more friends. And, by the way, Bad Lieutenant is a great movie. Does Keitel's honest and courageous performance scare you?
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Pathetic.
Now THAT was some straight up David Copperfield sh_t!
"Granted, I`m smarter than 99,9% of the population".
This is great stuff...
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
Bad Lieutenant suffered from its story only skimming the surface regarding the Lieutenant's conflict with his Catholic upbringing. If there had been more depth within this conflict then Bad Lieutenant would have been a better film. Harvey Keitel's performance was brilliant especially in his character's most disturbing moments.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".
I think Keitel's performance was great and the premise of the film was promising too, but in the end I wasn't as impressed as I hoped I would be (after hearing and reading lots of praise for the movie).
Like Errington_92 and some others I wish it would have had more depth. The way the Lieutenants character and inner conflict was dealt with just feels a bit superficial.
Another thing I didn't quite like (but that's most likely just a personal thing as I think all religions are humbug) was the ending (not the very ending - I'm fine with that - but before that). I can understand that a nun is so deluded to forgive her rapists, I might understand that he's got a nervous breakdown in the church - as a result of his catholic upbringing and what's going on inside him right now, and maybe even that he thinks he has some sort of "vision", but letting the rapists go - even helping them get away and giving them quite a lot of money - somehow was a very unsatisfying ending to that story (even if he had come around to understand the nun's point).
At first I thought you were being sarcastic and trying to make fun of the kind of people that talk like that. It would have been funny. You sound like someone making fun of an arrogant douche... but you just are a huge real one
shareWow, Tante, even if all of this were true, you totally blew your credibility right here: "thank gawd I played it in the background while writing my new book". (And no, it's not because you thank a deity for meaningless trivialities, and misspell said.)
See, I write books, too (high school and community college dropout--woot!), and usually have something streaming from Netflix in the background. And here's the thing, it's not possible to actually pay attention to it. Like, you can't see what's going on, and you're going to miss most of the dialogue, and all of the subtlety.
Rather, what you want to be playing is a movie or tv series that you either know by heart or don't care enough about to bother critiquing on IMDB. Personally, I like things like The Day After Tomorrow, Event Horizon, Air Force One, ID4--just about any explosion heavy adventure that's easy to follow and doesn't require close examination. Cheesy rom-coms and Hoarders episodes also work, though of course YMMV.
Bad Lieutenant, on the other hand, needs to be WATCHED. Like, all the way through, actually paying attention, before you spout off about it. If you can't be bothered to do that at least once, then your opinion, much like your resume, is invalid.
I've been getting a kick out of reading about your fantasy life in your posts. The conflicting bio details are pretty funny but what I really love is how you claim to be among the smartest few people in the world (a constantly reoccurring point throughout your posts) AND YOU'RE A BIRTHER!! Really the only thing that has left me disappointed is that you aren't also an internet tough-guy. You reached a impressively high level of patheticness buy you can never really reach the top without also being an internet tough-guy.
shareBest. Post. EVER.
The conceit is strong with this one.
Never defend crap with 'It's just a movie'
http://www.youtube.com/user/BigGreenProds
It must be hard living with absolutely no tolerance for differing opinions.
shareHis opinion was that the other guy had poor taste in film as he didn't find this movie good. You on the other hand lack tolerance, must be hard being ignorant and pointing out others "flaws".
"where we're going we don't need roads..."
The acting was fantastic for sure. The story however was painful with a lack of true depth to the leading character which would have been partially tolerable if not for the empty ending. The editing was slow and arduous, relying on carefully picked, artistic angles for the camera shots, but then hanging on them for two or three times longer than necessary in order to allow Keitel to prove his acting skills in a single take.
All in all, this film is not one of the strongest films of the 90s, that is absolute trash and you know it. Goodfellas, Silence of the Lambs, Shawshank Redemption, Shundler's List, Leon, Pulp Fiction, Se7en, Trainspotting, Usual Suspencts?? I mean the list goes on and on and on with films that trump Bad Lieutenant in almost every respect.
A moving and engaging and memorable experience it may be, but to claim that failure to recognise it's merits as you've put them as being evidence of mental and emotional inferiority is really quite an excessive statement.
A lover not a fighter: someone who finds alternative ways to make their jaw ache...
Interesting ... though apparently Scorsese liked this film enough to list it one of his top 5 movies of the entire decade
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/ebert-and-scorsese-best-films-of-the-1990s
Not every film has to be about storytelling. Evaluated as a story, I can't argue with you, because BL's plot can be summed up in about ten seconds. It's also an ugly film, both visually and in content. Admittedly, this one is for the fringe element . . highly tolerant film fans only. It's not "entertainment."
For what it was intended to be, it was flawless. Abel Ferrara obviously wasn't out to orchestrate some grand crime epic; he chose to make a film about the last days of a man who had put himself into a death spiral with poor choices, arrogance, and self-loathing.
Thank God for actors like Harvey Keitel. It takes an exceptionally rare combination of chops, preparation, commitment, and a total lack of ego to pull off a role like this. How many "name" actors would even attempt a role like this, let alone pull it off? This is clearly a man who is interested in a challenge more than he is a paycheck.
Frankly, a film this will put a lot of people off by its very nature. It would almost have to be considered a failure unless it did so. The more visceral the negative reaction, the more proof that Ferrara accomplished what he set out to accomplish. Thank you Zulu, and thank you OP!
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I have meddled with the primal forces of nature and I must atone.
I agree and you've made a great argument here. The plot as far as I understood was Keitel's character trying to divorce himself from his inner despair - regarding the fact that he knew he was falling from a great height - and so tried to do it as amoralistically as he possibly could, to maybe disgust himself so violently that he would break the binds that kept him in his *beep* life.
He breaks all boundaries illicitly, sexually and moralistically. He's the devil collecting his lost souls with one great big religious guilt trip and the law is the faith that he has fallen from. Before he is reminded by the rape of the nun where he has truly come from. Anyone who can't understand it's plot, I feel, is very sheltered and whereas Ferrara probably aimed for people to watch in disbelief, instead they look away in disbelief.
And I believe Keitel is now 73 years old or approaching, making him almost mid-fifties and accomplished when this film was made, so he was also a humble artist of the highest degree in my opinion. Me and my friends would watch this for entertainment value with beer over the remake or anything that proposes it can please everyone at the same time. Always choose acquired tastes over sugar and water, we don't spend £10 on a bottle of coke, why then on diluted adult entertainment? Thank you for supporting this awesome film!
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