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Something I don't quite understand with Holograms.




Ok - I recently saw on Youtube a snippet of an episode from series 7 - which I am yet to see all of - with Lister being married to a Yeti.

Now during this episode I saw Rimmer catch the Boquet.

Now seeing as I have only recently in past couple of months or so been introducted to Red Dwarf and fallen in love with it, I being a tv/movie fanatic, I remember small things and tiny details.

So this is the question out there to all major Red Dwarf fans; How did Rimmer, a mere hologram, physically catch that boquet of flowers?



Now, I asked this to my friend at uni whom introduced me, and they casually said, "Maybe something happened to him before then and his hologram form became more physical or intact."


But, remembering this, in watching the series I currently have (up to five) I realised Rimmer was able to lay down on the bed, also sit down on a chair or suitcase (Back to Reality - just saw it, and the suitcase part was hilarious!), yet when he leans on a bench he goes through it - as seen in the second episode of Series One.


So, for all you Red Dwarf fans out there, do you mind helping me solve this little problem?

I thought it could possibly be the fact that he can control what he wants to touch, such as solid objects, but not if it goes through him. But then how do you explain the desk?

Unless, only the bottom part works, so he can sit and lay down, but nothing else...


Yeah... I'm a freak, and I know it.




Seriously though, this has been puzzling me quite a bit for the past week...


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As far as I understand it from reading one of the books, he is not sitting on the chairs. He is actually floating a fraction of a really small measurement above the chair. The computer projects his light out there. It's not that the bottom part works, its just that the computer allows him to sit and lie down, but not lean, I guess.
However, in series 6 episode 2, "Legion," Rimmer is transformed from soft light to hard light, enabling him to touch and feel things, hence the ability to catch the bouqet.

Hope I've helped you.

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Ah... it all makes sense now! lmao!

Or I guess you could say that the computer prepares it for him.. but when something comes quickly.. the computer can't project the field fast enough to let him lean... say if he falls or something.


I really want to watch episode 6 and up to 8 though...


OH! And one more thing... what on earth is the Rimmer Song about? I've seen it on Youtube.. become obsessed with it, had even Red Dwarf fans tell me to shut the blooody helll up - and I am just going mad with waning to know exactly why he had a song about himself.. of course it was a lie though.

Is this when he leaves to take Ace's place as .. er.. whatever Ace exaclty was... lmao.

And just so you know.. for some reason I love Rimmer but hate Ace. So far I've only known three people who are like me.. but I'm curious to know whether you feel the same.

Oh, and are the books as funny? Someone told me there are only around three.. but I'm yet to find them at my book store.. and afford to buy them.. *grumbles*



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In Series VII Episode 5, "Blue," after Rimmer becomes Ace, Lister kind of misses him. Kryten creates a roller coaster ride in the AR suite that he calls the "Rimmer Experience." He created it from Rimmer's memories, and shows it to Lister so Lister can remember Rimmer, and what a smeghead he is. Lister stops missing him pretty quickly.

I love Rimmer because he's so annoying, and hilarious in all his annoying glory.
I don't really hate Ace, but I'm glad he's only in a couple of episodes. He is overly cocky, and that just doesn't fit with the Rimmer I'm used to. If I saw him any more often, I would hate him.

The books are wonderful, I found them very funny. I've only read the first two, Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers, and Better Than Life.
The first one, Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers, explains how Lister got to be working on Red Dwarf in the first place. It also explains how the cats evolved. After the point where the show starts, with the radiation leak, the book just uses the plots from the shows. This is true for Better Than Life, too. However, the shows aren't in the same order, and they all connect together instead of being separate episodes. Each problem they have snowballs them into another one.
There are two other books that I haven't read. The first two were written by the Grant Naylor team, but for these two, they split up. Each wrote one, The Last Human by Doug Naylor, and Backwards by Rob Grant. I think that The Last Human is generally considered the third installment, Backwards is the fourth.

I think I found my copies at a used bookstore, but it's been a while since I bought them, and I've bought so many books since, that it's hard for me to remember just now. They look like they've been read a lot, but that could just be from me.

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Yay! Thanks! That really summed it up for me! Hehe! It really is a smeg head isn't he? ^^,


I really MUST find those books now. I'll make sure to keep an eye out next tiem I go to the Op Shop, or bookstore. I have a new Borders built near me, and they have just gone into 'graphic novels' (comics and anime.. I always laugh at what the clueless place puts them under), so it might have the sci fi books.

Other than that, I can always hunt them down in the best sci-fi and fantasy shop in Sydney, The Galaxy bookstore... hopefully they will have them there!

At the moment though, I am reading a friend's copy of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I always love how the British write in that narrative style. Where sometimes it will introduce things that have nothing to do with the story, but it nevertheless leads on into the story. Just random things. It's great!


Anyhoo, I better get to bed. 2am. Funny thing is, I finally get to go to bed without stressing for a uni assigment (still have one for monday, but then it's 6 weeks of freedom for Winter Break!) and I still manage to stay up late, when I really should catch up on beauty sleep. Maybe I should start napping throughout the day like Cat. hehe...

Anyhoo, ta for the info!

Cya!


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6th series actually, 'Legion'.

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Spot on.

yah huh.

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There's also "Backwards", "Robert Llewellyn The Man Behind The Mask", "Red Dwarf Survival Guide" and one I saw last week, "Log", which is by Craig Charles.

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If you watch all the episodes you might like ace more, hes funny as he is everything rimmer is not, but everything rimmer wants to be. he's funny cos rimmers reactions to him are funny.

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Yeah Rimmer got a Hard Light Hologram drive in Season 6's 'Legion' which he can choose to turn on or off so sometimes he's soft light because it uses up a lot of battery power. You can tell when he's got the hard light form on when he's wearing a blue uniform (red being soft light)

And the show where he catches the bouquet is Season 6 too. 'Emohawk: Polymorph 2'

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I have watched all series over and over 100's of times but I never knew that about him been able to turn the hard light drive on and off with the color of his uniform been the indication as to what state he is in. nice one :D

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I really recomend to find the first 2 novels in audiobook form, Chris Barrie (Rimmer) reads them. It's amazing how good he is, my second favorite a.b. reader, and he does a very good voice likeness to all the Dwarfians.

Cool! I didn't know that his hard light/soft light states were color coded. =)

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Ok, so how about in Season 1, Episode 1 (or 2), when Rimmer tries to attack The Cat, he goes straight through him, but then they play the noise of him crashing into some shelves or something in the corridor.
I'm not sure Red Dwarf inconsistencies can all be explained by dodgy explanations like Rimmer floating, just that the show is a bit shoddy.

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That's in the first episode, "The End". The crashing noises weren't meant as literal consequences of Rimmer falling through Cat but just as comedic effect and nothing more.

Besides, if the Red Dwarf production crew made sure everything in the series was scientifically accurate and had "all its ducks in a row" continuity-wise, it just wouldn't be RD; they leave that to shows like Star Trek and such. In other words, your saying "the show is a bit shoddy" is right on the mark; the writers and producers intended the continuity "mistakes" to be in the finished product. After all, doesn't it seem highly appropriate that the production crew will "cause" as many screw-ups as the in-show crew does? lol

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Watch Smeg-outs. They got tonnes of letters about the shows inconsistancies (and there's hundreds...) Kryten just gave a random fob-off answer (something like "if you ever see something strange in the show.. it's because of space mutants") because frankly.. they don't care. The important thing to the writers was making people laugh and maintaining a basic story line, which they did fantastically.

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The reason, bud, is that before that episode, they found a "hard-light" drive that made him physically solid so he could thouch things. Before that, when he was "sitting" or resting on furniture, he was actually floating a 'fraction of a millimetre' above, as a projected simulation by the ship's hologram drive.

Trust me, I am the Dwarf.

Kisses.

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They didn't find a hard light bee, Legion fiddled with Rimmer's soft light bee and turned it into a hard light bee.

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Ok - I recently saw on Youtube a snippet of an episode from series 7 - which I am yet to see all of - with Lister being married to a Yeti.

It was in series 6, and it was not a yeti but a GELF (genetically engineered life form). Also.. why are you asking this question on an unrelated forum?

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