I'm a big fan of kung fu movies, and i'd like to have informations on that special haircut they have... if anyone know a website or something... thanks
shareThe only thing I know about it is it's from the time of the Qing Dynasty when it was ordered that anyone without that special haircut, bald at the front with a ponytail, seen in public was to be beheaded.
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well thanks a lot guys! :)
shareWas Wong Fei Hung even really around at this time?
shareehh not exactly he was born in 1847 and died in 1924... :/
shareBut he was real,wonder if he really did these things like in the movies.
shareI don't think so, but I know that the scene were Wong Fei Hung beat all the guy at the opera was inspired by something real
shareI'll tell you now I wouldn't be seen dead with a cut like that although it does kinda suit Jet Li and Iron Robe Yim.
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it's not Mongolian, it's Manchu
sharesomeday i will have this haircut and people will laugh
sharelol id like to meet someone with it. Chinese guys are a hell lot more sexy with this haircut (jet lee is a hundred times more cute like this) :))
shareOK we're a little out of the topic, I found where that haircut comes out :) :
Its in the second invasion of the mongols, the Manchurian dynasty, named Qing, from 1644 to 1911. That haircut, 'bianzi' in chinese, is the one that manchurians had. Its an kinda insult given to chinese.
Chinese people hate Manchurian as they hate westerners.
So we see that Wong Fei Hung had lived major part of his life in this dynasty, the time where Occident kneel China, you have to read on this, its horrible.
They're talking about the "unequal treaties" in the first OUATIC, they were real.
For this kind of movie lover, read on china history, youll love it!
You knew that Sun Yat Sen (OUATIC II) really lived?
wow I'm so amazed to discover all that, its just so exciting ! :))
i love china
You knew that Sun Yat Sen (OUATIC II) really lived?
wow I'm so amazed to discover all that, its just so exciting ! :))
---> [wow I'm so amazed to discover all that, its just so exciting ! :))]
i didnt talk about sun yat sen, but about all chinese history that u can see in movies...
I AGREE!!!! people think i'm crazy, but i like him better with the traditional chinese hair cut. haha.
shareBut can you grow hair that long though? I read that many Caucasians & Blacks have too fine a hair to grow long.
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He really was a doctor, that's one thing that was known for sure...but the actual history of him is not so clear. Most people seem to think that he didn't really do Gongfu at all, but I'm sure most of the information on that was destroyed in the Cultural Revolution.
Here in the Guangdong province, he's seen as sorta a folk hero kinda akin to Scotland's William Wallace or England's Robin Hood. Some people argue that he never really existed at all and was created for commerical purposes. And, here in the land of fakes, it really could be possible.
"He really was a doctor, that's one thing that was known for sure...but the actual history of him is not so clear. Most people seem to think that he didn't really do Gongfu at all, but I'm sure most of the information on that was destroyed in the Cultural Revolution."
haha ofcourse he did gongfu. Do you know wong fei hung invented one of the most famous styles of traditional wushu?
Tiger crane style was invented by him.
+ His father is also a famous Martial Artist in China he was one of Southern China's famous "Ten Tigers of Guangdung".
And yes he was a doctor, 3 of my friends went to his house / hospital (Po Chi Lam) this summer.
I myself went to Huo yuan Jia's house (jet li plays in fearless) and visited the first Jing Wu school.
But next year I'll be going to Po Chi Lam! :D
Oh and one more thing.
Wong Fei Hong lived from 1847 till 1924 the Qing Dynasty lasted from 1644 to 1911 and so Wong Fei Hung did live pretty much most of his life in the late Qing Dynasty except for the last 13 years of his life.
if you go up to shaolin you will also find streets of shaolin temples.
sharegreat. please do inform if you ever go to Po Chi Lam.
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For those of you who like that haircut, the film Chinaman's Chance has that. This is the link to it. It is an American film about the Chinese during this time period in America. It should be coming out sometime in 2007.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0493406/
Anyway, here's some stuff about the Manchu's pigtail haircut that I heard from Chinese people.
Sometime before the Machus established the Qing dynasty and took over China (don't know if it was during the Mongol or the Ming Dynasty), many Manchurians were prisoners to the main Chinese race (the Han Chinese). In order to set the Manchu slaves apart from the Han Chinese, the government fashioned a "Horses' Ass" look for the slaves. If you look at the haircut from the back, it is meant to look like a horse's but with it's hair running between the cheeks.
The Machurians carried pride with their unfortunate haircut and accepted it into their culture. To turn the insult back around when they took control of China, the Manchurians not only enforced the haircut upon the prisoners' of war from the last Han-ethnic dynasty (Ming Dynasty), they made it a law for every man in China to have that haircut or else they will get beheaded.
excuse me but that's really quite preposterous. The Manchus traditionally wore that pigtail because it was deemed suitable for their nomadic, equestrian lifestyle: with the shaved head there is increased friction between the head and the helmet, preventing the helmet from slipping sideways or blocking the rider's view, plus a pigtail can help identify you from the enemy. The Hans had their own Confucian ideals that forbid any cutting of hair, while the Manchus didn't have that as their tradition. They clearly wore the pigtails on their own accord, nobody forced them to.
What I really love about these Tartar savages-Manchus or Mongols-is that they really love to pose as the victims at hands of the Hans when in reality they've always been the fascist, bloodthirsty barbarians that oppressed the latter.
PS: the part about it looking like a horse's ass was even more preposterous because in the age that you claimed the Ming dynasty imposed that style on the Manchus, the pigtail was actually really different from the later Qing pigtail: the head was almost completely shaved, save the one bit in the back (instead of half and half), complete with a long, extremely thin pigtail. In fact it was known as the Jinqian Shuwei (Gold coin rat tail, meaning that the pigtail should be thin like a rat's and thin enough to pass through the square hole in a coin). It looked nothing like a horse's ass.
The plaited pony tail or the queue is the symbol of Manchurian or Qing authority over Han Chinese. Chinese have to plait their hair and shave their fronts - most Chinese saw that as a form of humiliation as it was traditionally almost forbidden to shave one's hair because it was believed to be a gift from parents. However, women were exempt from this practice.
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