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When John said "I order you not to go", why didn't that work?


Doesn't the T-800 have to do what John says?

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I assume it was in conflict with his prime directive, to protect John.
Not destroying itself would mean there will be Cyberdyne in the future.

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My explanation would be that at that ponint, the T-1000 was already destroyed, and the T-800 was sent back to protect John against it. So it being out of the picture, maybe the programming had some nuance to it, like "Obey John Connor's commands until all direct threats to his life are eliminated". So the T-800 maybe no longer followed him. Or the command conflicted with the established goal they were trying to accomplish (destroy all pieces of future tech).

Of course this is not confirmed in the movie itself, but it's logical to assume one (or both) of the above.

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His programming presumably comes to an end once his objective has been achieved (ensuring John Connor survives).

Once the T-1000 is destroyed, he no longer needs to obey him.

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T-800 explain his reason at the end.

If T-800 doesn't die, it might cause Skynet, and it will kill John.

His mission is to protect John, he have to prevent that possibility, therefor "old John's order"(save John) override "young John's order"(not to go).

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And then T3 shits all over that.

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I like Terminator 3 for the action scenes but yeah. That it did. And the stupid thing is that it is written that somehow without any kind of tech from the future, skynet and its robots can still exist. Even the 2nd film works in that regard since it is not that implausable that someone in authority at the end of the first film would be facinated by the smashed up remains of the terminator at the end.

If anything the first film basically makes it so Skynet created itself by sending a terminator back in time. Maybe if it had killed all the Sarah Connors it would have had always had a secondary mission to go up to a human scientist and have said human scientist disect it to insure Skynet gets created.

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T3 is an entertaining film. Alien 3 is a good film.

Neither of them can be considered canon.

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yah i wish, it ended here with T-800 melting itself..

BUT NO T3 had to f*** it all up.
and they managed to make John even more annoying!

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