I was watching this movie in my economics class, and we did not get to the end. I was at the part where Garfield was giving his speech to the shareholders. What happens afterwards?
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luv_profusion2004, you seem filled with love as your name would suggest. Just not for that guy. Thanks for the laugh.
sharehaha i was watching this movie in business class and got to the same part, i wanna know too.
shareha you must be in my bronars class. i really want to know how it ends too, too bad we didnt skip the mushy parts so we could finish.
sharewe watched it in my accounting class...
in the end garfield beats new england wire and cable. garfield feels like he has really lost kate forever...she then calls garfield and tells him that new england was offered to make some wire thing for airbags in japan...they start flirting on the fone and garfield agrees to reopen it for something in return. it then ends w/ him dancing b/c he was happy he was getting w/ kate.
In the 1989 off-Broadway play (on which the film was based), there is an epilogue describing how she leaves Morgan Stanley to work for him and then marries him and they have twins.
FWIW, Mercedes Ruehl played the part of Kate in the original show.
She asked him to sell Wire & Cable back to the employees. Garfield wanted to know what was in it for him, and she told him they'd pay X dollars/share (the exact amount escapes me for a moment), which was a good deal more than he paid for the shares - profit for him.
I don't think he was dancing because he was "getting with Kate" although he did look forward to seeing her. Garfield's happiness was chasing after the kill. She gave him a new kill - the wrangling for the exact price to sell the company back to the employees.
We never actually see him settling down with her.
Interesting take bikebryan...I always assumed that he was happy that he got Kate...but i can see it your way too...
Of course we remembr the depression he had in front of his butler earlier in the movie...
so we can assume that Kate coming back to him is at least part of his happiness.
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A decade later Im back on this board and revising my answer.
No doubt about it that he LOVES money...he sings about it...he names his computer a girls name. Its part of who he is.
BUT and here's the big BUT.....He proposed to Kate in the movie. It wasn't some sort of manipulation. It was him being as honest and direct as a person can be. He loved her and was ecstatic that he got her back.
There is definitely some ambiguity over what exactly he was dancing about.
Before Kate called, he sat in his chair, very sad. He's won, so clearly the win and the money are not making him very happy.
Then Kate calls. She mentions a Japanese company wants to contract NEW&C to make steel mesh for airbags, and the company is willing to exceed Garfield's coveted $25/share by offering him $28/share to sell his stake back to the company.
Ever the player, he says to her "if they're willing to pay me $28, they'll go to $30. He arranges dinner with her to discuss the details, and he starts dancing, saying to himself, "it's money that I love."
To me, Garfied started this movie saying how much he loves money. In the end, it appears he realizes that he's still lonely even though he's got tons of money. But now, he's got a love interest, adn that changes things.
It seems to me that there is a little bit of character development. Not typical Hollywood "oh honey, now I see that only you can make me happy", but he clearly becomes excited with the prospect of not only making more money on the deal but continuing the tension of the romantic tango with Kate.
He is who he is. He proposed to her because he knew he'd win. He was almost always one step ahead of her (except for the TRO, which made him respect her all the more), and wouldn't lose just to win her. He had to be himself, he had to do his best, and his best was going to be better; and after all, he is able to be himself while also potentially find love. Pretty good deal, I'd be happy too.
Especially since the "conservative" $125 million mentioned early in the movie comes out to $31/share. He is happy to get $28-$30/share because of Kate.
shareI don't think there's any ambiguity about the ending, at all.
Early in the film, he begins negotiating with Kate, and he rapidly realizes that she's his dream woman. Smart, sexy, sophisticated negotiator who "gets" him. This is underlined by the sexual tension and game-playing that always accompanies her line, "I have a proposition for you."
He was depressed at the end because, while he won the financial battle and was trying to take consolation in that, he desperately missed the game of negotiation he played with Kate, and figured it was over forever. When she phoned him with her new proposition, he was excited about the negotiation and sparring he was soon to be sharing with Kate, once again - which was far more, to him, about foreplay than money, and he now knew she felt the same.
The film even stayed true to his character - a silly ploy wasn't going to re-capture his interest, but Kate is presenting a valid and highly profitable business deal in good faith. How could he refuse?
It was never money that he loved - it was the chase. Kate is the ultimate chase. The game's back on.
good call, dgarts.
'he clearly becomes excited with the prospect of not only making more money on the deal but continuing the tension of the romantic tango with Kate.'
i think that this sums it up in a nutshell, the bird's-eye lowdown, so to speak. tho' probably at this point he was more exited that he could continue the tango with kate, while still making more money.
my main question centers on kate. when she called him about the japanese offer, was she just trying for her family's interests, or did she have an honest interest in garfield? i hope so.
I don't fully agree with your take.
I think the problem was, that he had to choose between doing the right thing as the president, and liquidating the company, or losing Kate. He chose the unselfish thing, and was going to liquidate the company.
Kate's proposition gave him an out, and showed that she understood, on at least some level, where he came from --- that she did not take his actions personally, which kept open the possibilities for a relationship for them.
A strong part of understanding Larry's character is recognizing that he saw in Kate the girl he had never been able to have -- that high school cheerleader he loved from afar. She was even more than that cheerleader -- she was not only beautiful, but his intellectual equal. He knew he could love her, if only he could get her to love him. And, as you see during the film, he's not a bad guy, he's got a certain dwarven charm, he's smart, quick-witted, and funny. He's got money, talent, and power. In short, excluding "looks", he's got most of what women look for in a mate. So she should be able to love him, too.
So he was very unhappy when he had to choose between making money and getting the girl, and he was honor bound to choose making money for his clients. And it appeared as though he could not get Kate, that she would resent losing to him.
So when Kate approaches him with the proposition, he sees a possible chance still existed for him to get both.
...And who would be unhappy with that?
P.S., the ABSOLUTE best line in the film (and one of the best movie lines ever):
Kate: Well, for someone who has nothing nice to say about lawyers, you certainly have plenty of them around.
Lawrence: They're like nuclear warheads. They have theirs, so I have mine. Once you use them, they F--- up everything.
Greenspan85, Thats the one.
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